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Old 06-03-2015, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Oopsland
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What do you think of the saying ''If you can't make yourself loved, make yourself feared'?
Does it have any sense in your opinion?
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Old 06-03-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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kinda. If I am such an unpleasant person and feel so miserable about myself that I think I am unworthy of being loved, then I might turn into a dick and hurt people around me, getting a kick out of being feared and avoided.

Uhm. yeah.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: In the outlet by the lightswitch
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I don't think that quote is about relationships though so much as it's about leadership/power. Seems like people follow leaders out of love and respect for them (like Eisenhower, Ghandi, Geroge Washington, Madela, etc) or fear (like Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Pol Pot, etc). On the surface, it seems to work.

If you are talking about romantic relationships, it's crap advice. The only people who will love you out of fear are pretty badly broken themselves. Sounds like a lot of drama.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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It sounds like a derivative of Machiavelli's, "It is better to be feared than loved ..." idea.

He believed that the outcome of being feared would be more reliable, given human nature. He argued that people would ultimately betray you if it served their advantage, although he also said that it would be best to be both loved AND feared.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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It sounds like a derivative of Machiavelli's, "It is better to be feared than loved ..." idea.

He believed that the outcome of being feared would be more reliable, given human nature. He argued that people would ultimately betray you if it served their advantage, although he also said that it would be best to be both loved AND feared.
Interesting thought about being loved and feared. I think love and fear leaders would be Patton, Eva Peron, Julius Ceasar.

It's an interesting topic.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Oopsland
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kinda. If I am such an unpleasant person and feel so miserable about myself that I think I am unworthy of being loved, then I might turn into a dick and hurt people around me, getting a kick out of being feared and avoided.

Uhm. yeah.
What's the use of it? In this case you lose even the small chance you have to be loved.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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The only people who will love you out of fear are pretty badly broken themselves. Sounds like a lot of drama.
A Stockholm syndrome? any other exceptions?
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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It sounds like a derivative of Machiavelli's, "It is better to be feared than loved ..." idea.

He believed that the outcome of being feared would be more reliable, given human nature. He argued that people would ultimately betray you if it served their advantage, although he also said that it would be best to be both loved AND feared.
And he was also talking about leadership and politics, not romantic relationships. I'd wonder about anyone using Machiavelli as as dating manual.
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Old 06-03-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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And he was also talking about leadership and politics, not romantic relationships. I'd wonder about anyone using Machiavelli as as dating manual.
Yeah, I certainly am not suggesting it.

I don't think this quote has anything to do with romantic relationships either.

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Old 06-03-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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What do you think of the saying ''If you can't make yourself loved, make yourself feared'?
Does it have any sense in your opinion?
I guess it makes sense... if you're one of those people that are constantly getting picked on and harassed.

If people leave you alone, then I don't really see the point.

My philosophy for the ones who are left alone...


If you want to be Loved, show that you Love yourself.

Now, this is not about going around thinking; "I'm the s---!!!

This is more along the lines of taking care of yourself, taking care of your body. Making yourself look as good as possible, etc.

That's right, looking good is also a sign of loving yourself.


I'm not saying you have to be Brad Pitt to love yourself so don't even go there. I'm saying you just have to look YOUR best.
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