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Old 09-08-2015, 11:21 PM
 
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When one understands human nature and 'know thyself' [Socrates] thoroughly one will come to understand why 'mindfulness-proper' is essential for any human being to function optimally.

"Mindfulness" is central to Buddhism but it is not a specifically patented Buddhist element. Rather it is a natural process and procedure that is common to all human beings, just like the necessity to eat a balanced diet to be healthy.

The confusions, problems and abuses arising from practitioners and critics are due to the constraint of semantics in representing the true processes of mindfulness. Generally it is always the insufficient but only available English or any translated 'terms' that set off the wrong perception.

For example, 'Focus on the NOW or PRESENT' will spontaneously lead the many lay people to interpret the term in accordance to their habituated meaning and thus strayed off from the intended meaning as used in 'mindfulness.' They will interpret this as focus on the present and forget about the past and future.
Another related case is the example the translating of the sophisticated Pali term 'Dukkha' as 'sufferings' which led to many to wrong perceptions and condemnations by critics on this significant core principle of Buddhism.

Thus to understand 'what is mindfulness' truthfully one need to get behind the semantics to the actual machinery and processes that warrant the need for 'mindfulness' and how 'mindfulness' actually work.
To have an efficient understand of the detailed processes one need to have a wide range of knowledge on human nature down to its neural basis within neuroscience.

The main feature of mindfulness is where one is highly mindful of what is needed to perform optimally within the present moment and one is fully engage with reality and aware of what is past, present and future. This is a very common feature of sport champions where their mind is fully focused on the game and their 'eyes are on the ball' all the time but not to the extent they will not run away if there is a bomb threat in their midst.

To cultivate a sound and efficient state of 'mindfulness,' there are various practices to do it and the basic starting point is the focus on the 'breathing.' Whilst this basic process do provide immediate benefits to the practitioner, one need to know this resulting positive state is not its final objective.
The other intermediate progress towards a 'state of mindfulness' is the modulation of the 'Ruminating Loop' that end up with 'noises' and 'chatters' which hinder optimality of one's well being. This is control of the 'Ruminating Loop' is very critical as 'noises' can lead one to serious psychological detriments/damages in life.

Here is one useful guide to mindfulness from the secular perspective;
http://www.amazon.com/Full-Catastrop.../dp/0345536932
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Old 09-08-2015, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Here is a good audio book about mindfulness written by an American Westerner that covers mindfulness in a way that Westerners should be able to understand.

See how mindful you can be in listening to the entire book.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH1_...E9XJ2Ujc3mMkMw
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Old 09-12-2015, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Is there anything in that three-hour-plus audiobook that you can't tell me in a tweet?

Thank goodness, I've got the accumulated 70 years of "past" to apply to my evaluation of the "present" in order to avoid a catastrophic "future".
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Old 09-12-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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A recent 60 Minutes episode resonated with me. The Mindfulness Movement has to do with only living in the moment. Right now, is right now. Be present in the moment without thinking about tomorrow or yesterday. We are surrounded by the stressfulness of "noise" from electronic devices, when we should be still and focus on the now by taking time to just breathe and be quiet. I agree. You?
Living means being stressed, to some degree or another.

People have different ways of coping and intoxicants have always been popular, although a few rarely or ever feel the need to go that route. Maybe it's just dumb luck to continually experience contentment without the need for enhancement or distraction?

There may also be a tendency for reactions to worsen effects of certain conditions or situations. Mindfulness may simply be one way to let go of those tendencies with a more relaxed attentiveness.
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Old 09-12-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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Living means being stressed, to some degree or another.
You mean I'm missing something? Does this imply that life is not worth living, if it doesn't have a liberal dose of stress in it?

It is possible to arrange your life, so that stress occurs so rarely that most of the time, you feel like you are actually immune to it. What's wrong with that?
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Old 09-12-2015, 12:05 PM
 
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You mean I'm missing something? Does this imply that life is not worth living, if it doesn't have a liberal dose of stress in it?

It is possible to arrange your life, so that stress occurs so rarely that most of the time, you feel like you are actually immune to it. What's wrong with that?
If your life is almost totally stress-free, that's wonderful, congratulations.

Since most folks lives aren't (to greater or lesser extent), we might look for ways to alleviate it.

The techniques of mindfulness are just one of those ways, nothing more.
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Old 09-12-2015, 01:39 PM
 
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Is there anything in that three-hour-plus audiobook that you can't tell me in a tweet?

Thank goodness, I've got the accumulated 70 years of "past" to apply to my evaluation of the "present" in order to avoid a catastrophic "future".
From the sounds of it probably not.

It's a good book for anyone who is interested in learning how to practice mindfulness.
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Old 12-04-2015, 04:01 AM
 
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I've never understood mindfulness no matter how many times I've read it but now I think I'm getting it just completely enjoying this moment that im alive and in the world and what it has for me and not thinking about next week or the sorrows of the past.i don't think its possible in the west to think like this as the Chinese proverb goes "people in the west are always getting ready to live".
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