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Old 11-27-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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You know the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely" so here's a mental musing to toss around...

Say Extraterrestrials with technology on the "godlike" scale came to Earth, picked you out of the 7+ Billion other people on the planet and gave you access to all their considerable abilities with the only caveat being that you couldn't exercise that power off-planet.

Suppose you were made essentially immortal and personally invincible vs any Earthly technology, able to manipulate matter to be whatever you wanted it to be with a thought, read minds, granted genius (but still within the maximum cognitive capabilities the human brain) intelligence, speak/understand any language and travel anywhere on the planet in the blink of an eye.

With such godlike powers, could you "fix" the world and all it's problems or would you inevitably and/or unintentionally destroy it? Would the world greet you as a savior or fear and hate you? Would you even try to save the world or would you fear your own power and hide yourself away?

I guess the bigger question is if the human mind is even up to the task... are we only ever "just smart enough to get (ourselves) into trouble"?
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:03 PM
 
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You know the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely" so here's a mental musing to toss around...

Say Extraterrestrials with technology on the "godlike" scale came to Earth, picked you out of the 7+ Billion other people on the planet and gave you access to all their considerable abilities with the only caveat being that you couldn't exercise that power off-planet.

Suppose you were made essentially immortal and personally invincible vs any Earthly technology, able to manipulate matter to be whatever you wanted it to be with a thought, read minds, granted genius (but still within the maximum cognitive capabilities the human brain) intelligence, speak/understand any language and travel anywhere on the planet in the blink of an eye.

With such godlike powers, could you "fix" the world and all it's problems or would you inevitably and/or unintentionally destroy it? Would the world greet you as a savior or fear and hate you? Would you even try to save the world or would you fear your own power and hide yourself away?

I guess the bigger question is if the human mind is even up to the task... are we only ever "just smart enough to get (ourselves) into trouble"?
Since you said fix the world and not humanity, the world would be pretty perfect if it had zero humans on it. So yes, I could fix the world.

To your actual point, no I don't think you can 'fix' the world unless you can reprogram human nature in every single human being. Short of that there's nothing else you could do.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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Yes. No need for aliens.
Why it always have to be aliens?
It's called enlightened monarchy. Monarchy by far is the best social system known. The key word, though, is ENLIGHTENED. Even at a glance at human history, one can easily spot such leaders. Entire civilizations that lasted thousands of years were that way because they were enlightened monarchys.
Thing is, for enlightened person corruption does not exist. They were, as the result, usually murdered on our times. As in - in current civilization times.
Why do you think one of The Elite goals was to corrupt and get rid of royal blood lines?

Finally, people do not want freedom. They want comfort, two hundred channels on the cable, sex, drugs, rock-and-roll, an easy job and an SUV. No country with really elaborate home-theater has ever risen in revolt. An awful lot of people secretly like being told what to do. We would probably be happier with a king.

Faking Democracy - The Lawful Path
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Old 11-28-2015, 12:27 AM
 
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I don't think you can 'fix it', per se, (humans being humans) but you could reign in a lot of systemic injustices. I agree with Ukrkoz that Benevolent Dictator / Enlightened Monarch is most efficient. Note to any aliens monitoring C-D - Make me "King"! Alas, being immortal would cause it's own problems if one seeks love. There'd be no one else like you so you'd get lonely. But wait, perhaps each generation could be marked by my chosen "Queen"? Hmm,


Here's an old post that has some earthly realm steps (USA) to take
The advantage of a Monarchy


I'd like to be Valentine Michael Smith [Robert Heinlein's Martian man in Stranger In A Strange Land] and 'transport' certain 'types' of people to "never land". That would reduce the population quickly.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strang...a_Strange_Land
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Old 11-28-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Define "fix". What would be the characteristics of a world that everybody, or even a majority, considered to be "fixed"?

Genocide is often regarded as a "fix", because there is always a demographic that has a different idea about what a fix accomplishes. So how does your "fix" make things better for everybody? By erasing demographic distinctions and making everyone the same? By what model?

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Old 11-28-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Define "fix". What would be the characteristics of a world that everybody, or even a majority, considered to be "fixed"?

Genocide is often regarded as a "fix", because there is always a demographic that has a different idea about what a fix accomplishes. So how does your "fix" make things better for everybody? By erasing demographic distinctions and making everyone the same? By what model?
Wouldn't time and technology eventually amalgamate the entire human race? Eventually everyone will look pretty much the same, as long as there is enough cross-demographic breeding? That would solve one problem, maybe. The difference is that differences cause conflict and conflict causes bad things to happen. The struggle for power and resources is an integral process woven into our DNA.

Bottom line is that human beings, regardless of external situation, will still be human beings, and that is something that can never be changed.
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Old 11-28-2015, 02:16 PM
 
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Even if you wanted to "fix" the world, what would you fix? Would you stop human beings from being human?

I guess fixing the weather might be a good thing. We could all live in a perfect climate rather than the bad weather some people have to endure. Or maybe, everyone would have a roof over their head and enough to eat.

Anyone remember the Twilight Zone where the guy dies and apparently goes to heaven? He's in a hotel with a few gorgeous girls who will do whatever he wants. Every pool shot he takes is perfect. Every poker hand he plays is all aces.... In the end, he figures out he isn't in heaven, he's in hell.
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Old 11-28-2015, 02:29 PM
 
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There is reason humanity is on Earth and is the way it is.
That part simply can not be fixed.
But, a system may be established to assists that purpose and facilitate it, instead of hindering it and delaying.
Will this fix the humanity - no, as there is no need to. But, it may help humanity on its way.
Thing is, this was done routinely before. Every time, after brief enthusiasm, it all goes back to its ways. Sometimes humanity makes a leap in development. Sometimes it makes leap into retardation. Sometimes it does not change, stagnates for eons. Sometimes it destroys itself and then restores.
Nihil novi ante Sol. So it was, so it will be.
It can be discussed, but has no more than scholastic value.
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Old 11-28-2015, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Every person in the history of the world that has tried to take over the world thought they were doing it to make it a better place. Including Hitler.

Bad guys don't actually think they're bad guys. And fixing the world is subjective on so many levels.
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Old 11-28-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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There is no such thing as an extraterrestrial from another planet. We ARE the extraterrestrials. And even if hypothetically speaking there was, they wouldn't have the answers to humanity's problems nor could they solve them. Humanity's problems are spiritual. There is evil in the world and people who like to commit it. It will never go away. The only thing you can do is use the authority you have as a God-created being to command and declare against the evil and darkness operating in any person, place, or thing and it will leave and drop dead in it's tracks just like THAT.
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