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Old 12-11-2015, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Northeast of Brazil
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I realize that some people don't see how futile is the idea of trying to "shape the world" in some "long lasting" way...

Even if you or your group succeed in "shaping" the whole world according to your beliefs or preferences, that "shape" won't last more than a few centuries, at most...

The world is always changing, and even if you shape the entire world according to your will, in no more than 300 or 400 years the world will be totally different from what you "achieved" for a while...
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Old 12-11-2015, 03:25 PM
 
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Unfortunately, the reality shows otherwise. A very dedicated group of people had been shaping it for roughly 3 thousand years and is very successful.
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:07 PM
 
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Unfortunately, the reality shows otherwise. A very dedicated group of people had been shaping it for roughly 3 thousand years and is very successful.

Since the year 1000 BC?

Who?
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Old 12-11-2015, 09:41 PM
 
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Roughly. Do your research. Has something to do with one of the pharaohs. They are now the conceptual leaders of The Elite.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:01 AM
 
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Well, the world changed a lot in the past 3000 years, and it doesn't seem those changes have any "logical" direction, those are just random changes without any apparent "purpose" that I can see...
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Old 12-12-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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If you say so. To each of his own.
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Old 12-13-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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I'll play nice.
Here's one source to consider


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtl7...sdTZ4MNZlj7CU4
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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I realize that some people don't see how futile is the idea of trying to "shape the world" in some "long lasting" way...

Even if you or your group succeed in "shaping" the whole world according to your beliefs or preferences, that "shape" won't last more than a few centuries, at most...

The world is always changing, and even if you shape the entire world according to your will, in no more than 300 or 400 years the world will be totally different from what you "achieved" for a while...
I agree. Everything we know is in a constant state of flux and outcomes are always uncertain. I think the Daoists and Heraclitus embraced this point of view. But it doesn't keep humans from trying.
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Old 12-14-2015, 08:24 AM
 
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I don't agree. The way in which I shape it isn't lost, it is built upon.
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Old 12-14-2015, 04:54 PM
 
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george washington had a mom and dad. even aunts and uncles.
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