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Old 12-21-2015, 12:58 PM
 
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In my surroundings there are two times you have to be wary of "the angels of death" fluttering around: early to mid 50's and again in the early 60's. We just had a big die off last year of people 62 - 64 yrs old. Ten years ago or so, it was the 52 - 57 yr olds; all of them sudden and unexpected. If you can get past 65 still breathing you'll likely live to near 80 or above. I know very few people these days dying in their late 60's or 70's.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:09 PM
 
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O As an example, my expected longevity is 77, but if I average ALL deaths for my sex and age and race together my expected longevity is 65.

Mortality should be a concern for every one that has a brain and can think for themselves.
That is BS..... The average age is 77 for ALL CAUSES. What are talking about.?

If the average age is 77 that is the AVERAGE AGE of all PEOPLE WHO HAVE DIED.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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In my surroundings there are two times you have to be wary of "the angels of death" fluttering around: early to mid 50's and again in the early 60's. We just had a big die off last year of people 62 - 64 yrs old. Ten years ago or so, it was the 52 - 57 yr olds; all of them sudden and unexpected. If you can get past 65 still breathing you'll likely live to near 80 or above. I know very few people these days dying in their late 60's or 70's.
The trick is to still be vital into your 80s. If you're still enriching the lives of others rather than being only a burden, you've lived well.


Dying from a heart attack in your sleep at age 85 the an hour after telling a great-grandchild a goodnight story and tucking her in, or while swinging a hammer in a Habitat house at age 85 isn't a bad way to go...given that we all do go.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:12 PM
 
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In some days I'm going to be 55. I never thought about age or death before but it hit me that 55 is close to 60 and 60 is close to 65 and so on. I've been alive for 54 going on 55 years.

What really gets me is hearing about people I knew dying. There's still so much more I want to do and is five years enough? How long will my health hold out? Heck how much longer do I have left? My answer at this point is to live as best as I can for as long as I can. 54 years went by so fast. How long is this mortal death?

So I just had my life limitation eye opening. Have any others had such a realization and if so when?
You'll be alive as long the creator feels he needs you to be. So stop all the morbid thoughts and enjoy yourself. You've been ignorning mortality for 54 years. What's a few more?
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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I think a lot of us go through life ignoring the dread of death.

Since this is a Philosophy forum the existential nothingness that is death scares the crud out of me, and I'm a relatively young 33 years old.

I'll lie awake at night, and a wave of anxiety comes over me. A thousand thoughts of after death and before death rush through me. It's horrible.

A lot of people cope with this, with heaven or God, and I just don't know. It's the not knowing that I can't really come to terms with.

Once that wave subsides, the only thing to do is recognise my humanness, be humble in the face of non-existence, and try to honor my humanity with enjoying life and trying to become a better me.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Everything is easier when you know that "Heaven" and "Hell" can not logically exist.
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Old 12-21-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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Everything is easier when you know that "Heaven" and "Hell" can not logically exist.
Although I agree, it actually makes it harder. Heaven and hell were put into place to quell fear in people. The fact of no existence beyond death means when you die you DIE. That, while likely is a scary proposition.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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The people that die young or younger than average stand out because it's abnormal. But I would guess that more people reach 75+ than don't. So it makes sense for the average person to expect to live well into their 70s and even 80s. 80 year olds seem ( to me) to be pretty common.

And should mortality be a concern? It's a natural part of life. All living things die. But we humans have higher brains that allow us to worry about and fear our eventual demise, which is a natural process.
The mean age for longevity for my sex and age and race is 65, that means that 50% of my group die before 65 and 50% live longer then 65. Most can reach the insurance companies estimate of longevity if they lock themselves in a room, don't smoke, stay thin, exercise everyday, don't drive, don't walk on busy streets, don't have any birth defects, DNA predisposition to disease of any kind and don't drink to excess. Then you will probably live to or past your expected longevity age.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:13 PM
 
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The mean age for longevity for my sex and age and race is 65, that means that 50% of my group die before 65 and 50% live longer then 65. Most can reach the insurance companies estimate of longevity if they lock themselves in a room, don't smoke, stay thin, exercise everyday, don't drive, don't walk on busy streets, don't have any birth defects, DNA predisposition to disease of any kind and don't drink to excess. Then you will probably live to or past your expected longevity age.
But is that "mean age for longevity" factored from birth or from a more advanced age?


For instance, black males in the US suffer an abnormally large morbidity spike between 18 and 26 that pulls down the mean age for longevity if it is factored from birth.


It tends to be significantly higher if factored from age 50. In other words, a black male whose personal habits and environment enabled him to live to age 50 has beaten many of the odds of an earlier death.
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Old 12-21-2015, 02:15 PM
 
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The mean age for longevity for my sex and age and race is 65, that means that 50% of my group die before 65 and 50% live longer then 65. Most can reach the insurance companies estimate of longevity if they lock themselves in a room, don't smoke, stay thin, exercise everyday, don't drive, don't walk on busy streets, don't have any birth defects, DNA predisposition to disease of any kind and don't drink to excess. Then you will probably live to or past your expected longevity age.
No it doesn't!! What is your group, males? Males average 77..so stop saying 65 you are giving out bad info.

77 is the average of EVERYBODY..smokers, drinkers, vegetarians, meat eaters. It is the purpose of average TO INCLUDE all people.
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