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Old 01-06-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Pocono Mts.
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I concur. Humans commonly experience suffering to gain wisdom.

I prefer the path of least resistance to evolve my wisdom. Don't we all?

Wisdom is gained through suffering, that of fasting is quite common.

Wisdom is gained, in my opinion, through seeing the world with an open mind , listening - with a closed mouth. Experiencing joy and pain, and the ability to understand another's. It is gained through willingness to accept that we can not know all things, that there are things out there for us to still learn from. Being able to see the things that which cannot be seen with the naked eye - those things that only the heart can feel. It can be found in books, art...can come out of the mouth of a child so profoundly you would think the little one lived a past life and brought that wisdom along for another ride.

It really has not much to do with smarts.
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Old 01-07-2016, 11:47 PM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Empathy. And time seems to be an obvious element, somehow not a requirement; "old souls". Still, the word "old". A reference to time. Hmm...
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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Love of wisdom means getting your hands dirty, not just seeking degrees and arguing with other professional philosophers, according to an Op-Ed piece in the NY Times today. How timely.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com...-its-way/?_r=0

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Our claim, then, can be put simply: Philosophy should never have been purified. Rather than being seen as a problem, “dirty hands” should have been understood as the native condition of philosophic thought — present everywhere, often interstitial, essentially interdisciplinary and transdisciplinary in nature. Philosophy is a mangle. The philosopher’s hands were never clean and were never meant to be.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Canada
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and maybe learning the spelling of a few easy words to add to the wisdom?
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Pocono Mts.
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It's experience, just read it on my tea bag tag...so that has got to be the best answer. Tea bag tags don't lie, they are like Snapple lids. Gain wisdom through tea bag tags, and Snapple lids.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:32 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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experience+insight
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Old 01-15-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Although it is a regrettable fact that many people are asleep until suffering awakens them, it is entirely possible to be awakened by other things, and I'd never suggest that suffering is ennobling other than incidentally.
While I don't know the particulars of TroutDude's statement, I agree with what he said. The metaphysic my worldview uses suggests that wisdom equals ability to apprehend and process truth. I.e., wisdom defined is the possession of a higher order of truth. The distinction between the 'natural, normal' possession of truth over against the notion of a 'higher order' is in my mind a quantifiable comparison.


Assuming (as I do) that there exists some correlation between suffering and the removal of that in human essence which hinders the possession of truth, then TD's postulation of suffering + time to gain wisdom makes sense.
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