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01-06-2016, 09:28 AM
 Location: SE Michigan 195 posts, read 436,934 times Reputation: 240

The only thing that can make a person smarter, braver, a better orator, a deep thinking philosopher, a better driver, a better golfer, a better business man and a better lover is alcohol consumption. Of course our ability to perceive these gains will be due in part to our own consumption of alcohol.

Now lets look at this question and explain it from a mathematical point of view with the use of Smart Phone technology:

I assert that:
Stupid people + Smart Phones = Stupid people with smart phones.

They are still stupid people but now they have technology that lets them reveal to the world just how stupid they really are. They can present their stupidness on a scale never before thought possible thanks to the underlying technology of a smartphone, wireless technology and the internet!

It's sort of like adding signed numbers.

A negative -(stupid person) + a positive (smart phone) still results in an answer that is negative. i.e a stupid person with a smart phone.

The equation might look like this:
-(stupid person) + Smart Phone = -(Stupid person with smart phone) or Stupidness squared i.e -(Stupid^2 )

So the final equation might look like this:

-(stupid person) + Smart phone = -(Stupid^2)

Then if you combine multiple stupid people with smart phones the equation becomes more complex and the stupidity will then rise as an exponent of the base equation based on the number of stupid people with cell phones:

(-(stupid person) + Smart phone = -(Stupid^2)^X

Where X is the number of stupid people with smart phones involved in that persons conversation.

To sum it all up. Technology, at least in the case of smart phones does not make anyone smarter. Technology actually acts to accelerate and reveal your ignorance much faster than ever before to the world.

I work for a technology company and I've spent way too much time on this already.

01-06-2016, 10:09 AM
 Location: rural south west UK 3,559 posts, read 2,044,616 times Reputation: 4017
technology certainly makes people more stupid and much more lazy.
why bother working it out for yourself when you can get some ap to do it for you.
why bother to learn map reading when your sat nav can do it for you?
I have lost count of drivers stuck on a narrow bend in the road and sat in a sinking car in a flooded ford because they believed their sat nav when it told them to go that way.

01-06-2016, 05:16 PM
 72 posts, read 255,145 times Reputation: 122
Smarter. Period.

Thirty years ago if you had asked me what's the capital of Turkmenistan... I couldn't have told you. Now- I can tell you in about ten seconds using my phone.

Twenty years ago if you'd asked me what's become of the friends and family who scattered like cockroaches as the years passed... I couldn't have told you. Now- I know all about them and the stupidity they post on facebook

So yeah, in effect we're just plain smarter. Sure there's a trade-off... but I remember the pre-internet days. And IMO it's been a VERY worthwhile trade.

01-11-2016, 07:11 AM
 Location: rural south west UK 3,559 posts, read 2,044,616 times Reputation: 4017
Quote:
 Originally Posted by iskerbibel Smarter. Period. Thirty years ago if you had asked me what's the capital of Turkmenistan... I couldn't have told you. Now- I can tell you in about ten seconds using my phone. Twenty years ago if you'd asked me what's become of the friends and family who scattered like cockroaches as the years passed... I couldn't have told you. Now- I know all about them and the stupidity they post on facebook So yeah, in effect we're just plain smarter. Sure there's a trade-off... but I remember the pre-internet days. And IMO it's been a VERY worthwhile trade.
no, not smarter.
you still don't know what that capital is so your not any smarter, its just easier to look up the answer.
and I don't agree the trade off is worthwhile, it just makes people lazier.

01-14-2016, 10:06 AM
 Location: Rutherfordton,NC 14,108 posts, read 9,009,011 times Reputation: 9566
Quote:
 Originally Posted by bigpaul no, not smarter. you still don't know what that capital is so your not any smarter, its just easier to look up the answer. and I don't agree the trade off is worthwhile, it just makes people lazier.

It does make things easier but your right to some extent. No one really has to put in the work to find something anymore. Just Google it.

01-14-2016, 12:41 PM
 2,329 posts, read 1,341,665 times Reputation: 4539
It makes us LESS self sufficient
if the power goes out, most wont survive

100 years ago, loss of power wouldn't have been a big deal...people could still grow food and find water

now, that they wont be able to google their way through the simplest of problems, most wont survive

01-15-2016, 12:12 AM
 Location: CA 1,569 posts, read 1,957,012 times Reputation: 1593
If by 'smarter' you really mean wise, well then --- NO.

01-21-2016, 11:10 PM
 Location: in the soup 3,834 posts, read 1,623,541 times Reputation: 4399
Quote:
 Originally Posted by Zelva If by 'smarter' you really mean wise, well then --- NO. IMO, more information does not = wisdom.
I'd agree that information doesn't equal wisdom.

But I think it's reasonable to say that a person has a far better chance of gaining wisdom if they have access to information. Awful hard to be wise if you don't know about the world around you.

01-22-2016, 01:42 AM
 Location: rural south west UK 3,559 posts, read 2,044,616 times Reputation: 4017
Quote:
 Originally Posted by lucky2balive It makes us LESS self sufficient if the power goes out, most wont survive 100 years ago, loss of power wouldn't have been a big deal...people could still grow food and find water now, that they wont be able to google their way through the simplest of problems, most wont survive
absolutely correct, well said.

01-27-2016, 02:53 AM
 Status: "I'm an Unmherkun puppy-kicking Socialist" (set 4 days ago) Location: Dallas, TX 3,996 posts, read 2,101,659 times Reputation: 3741
Continuum Post #8 has a pretty good handle on things.

First: There's a huge difference between being intelligent and being informed. As Continuum said, intelligence has more to do with neural connections than anything else (personally, I'd say basic ability for abstract thinking, foresight, and overall creativity is the hallmark of intelligence - but that's just my honest best conjecture).

Second:Being informed itself doesn't mean anything. Information (as in "What is the capital of Turkmenistan?") is just raw data / trivia - not the finished product. What do you do with that information? How can you judge how relevant it is?

Third: and most revealing IMO, 60 years ago people though that playing chess was a hallmark of intelligence. It's easy to see how frankly silly that idea is today, but back then people didn't have the background and experience to see just how subtle intelligence is (perhaps we still don't even to this day). A chess-playing computer simply reacts without thought to moves on a chessboard (or blips on a screen, if you prefer), but it's good at only one thing - playing chess (indeed, there's nothing else in its "conceptual universe" but chess).

So, as said earlier, technology is just a tool, not the thought process itself. Information is just that, information, not the mental process required to judge the usefulness of that information, much less put various pieces of information together in new and more useful ways. I cannot see how intelligence can exist without this.
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