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Old 02-07-2016, 03:58 AM
 
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It seems that since we are aware of ourselves we have been trying to find out who, why & where we are and that many of our religions, cosmologies, philosophies and sciences developed around this quest.

The answers differ widely, see for example neurologists, Buddha, Hegel, astrophysicists, Lao Tse or Christian fundamentalists - yet each insists to have the right answer, which is understandable, after all, it is not easy to admit that the quest has been in vain and increases our confusion.

What went wrong?
Some of the thinkers you mention accept that "the quest" is a rather pointless exercise as it is described above.

But as you point out, it seems that for many (most?) there is the insistence that this "quest" MUST!!!! have an end and that it will be a neatly tied package with a big bow.

I am inclined to feel that people look for answers to questions that aren't questions.
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Old 02-07-2016, 06:20 AM
 
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I am inclined to feel that people look for answers to questions that aren't questions.

so true. Lay out the observations first. Like with a puzzle. Don't make it a puzzle of what we want then force the pieces in. And even though it is not complete we can make some good guesses. Even if we say 'the puzzle is there, but I don't know of what yet.". Some of my like minded people don't care how valid that is. They will go as far as to swipe the puzzle "off the table" and say "see, it's not there." they are embarrassing to the "logical thinkers" for me.
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Old 03-22-2016, 03:48 AM
 
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It seems that since we are aware of ourselves we have been trying to find out who, why & where we are and that many of our religions, cosmologies, philosophies and sciences developed around this quest.
Those are good questions bud!!



In the 80s me and some friends used to call people @ random (Just dial any 7 digits) and when they answered we said "LIFE?? WHATS IT ALL ABOUT? Why are we here?? -- These are just some of the questions many have had for awhile"

Sadly most ppl hung up
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Old 03-31-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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Lousy decision, particularly for someone who knows everything.
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Old 03-31-2016, 03:05 PM
 
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God decided to create humans and everyone knows humans can muck up everything.
a lousy decision, particularly for someone who claims to know everything
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Old 04-01-2016, 02:55 PM
 
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It seems that since we are aware of ourselves we have been trying to find out who, why & where we are and that many of our religions, cosmologies, philosophies and sciences developed around this quest.

The answers differ widely, see for example neurologists, Buddha, Hegel, astrophysicists, Lao Tse or Christian fundamentalists - yet each insists to have the right answer, which is understandable, after all, it is not easy to admit that the quest has been in vain and increases our confusion.

What went wrong?
Who is to say that the quest has been in vain. Each person finds their own truth.
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Old 04-04-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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It seems that since we are aware of ourselves we have been trying to find out who, why & where we are and that many of our religions, cosmologies, philosophies and sciences developed around this quest.

The answers differ widely, see for example neurologists, Buddha, Hegel, astrophysicists, Lao Tse or Christian fundamentalists - yet each insists to have the right answer, which is understandable, after all, it is not easy to admit that the quest has been in vain and increases our confusion.

What went wrong?
Well first of all let's distinguish the "we" that is biological from the "we" that is cognition.

The existence of the biological we is just an artifact of evolution. You can ask the same question about why amoeba or elephants exist. Each organism fills an environmental niche. In that sense humans are no different from the millions of other organisms - we are just vehicles for DNA.

As to the cognitive part of our existence, well for whatever reason we developed a big knot of neurons in our heads and those neurons managed to create self awareness and cognition. It is just a quirk of evolution, like the quirk of an octopus with its eight legs. No big deal as there are lots of quirks in nature. We make far too big of a deal about it, coming up with lots of religious mumbo jumbo and equally overblown philosophical clap trap. And that is what went wrong.

One further comment - we are not an evolutionary end point, we are simply a step in a very long process. I fully expect that in a few million years humans will no longer exist, likely evolved into some other hominid. Questions of why we exist seem to forget this. It is like Homo Habilis asking why he exists; there is no permanent existence, they were just a part of a very long process, as are we.
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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God decided to create humans and everyone knows humans can muck up everything.
Poor decision for someone who claims to know everything
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:44 PM
 
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human are proteins that do what proteins do. So I don't know how we are mucking things up. Don't forget people, the rain must stop to force the change we all want.
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Old 04-04-2016, 07:53 PM
 
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Maybe it is all in vain... someone with some knowledge of physics was telling me that there are something like a dozen dimensions that exist, at least according to some physics theories. We only commonly perceive three... so what do we really know at all about our reality?
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