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Are you serious!? I feel sorry for next gen of men that will be taught to pretty much be a wimp.
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A lot of guys hate the tough-guy image forced on them. And that's nothing new; men now in their 40's talk about how they had no role models in high school or college, other than tough, emotionless types, or the rare gay teacher or professor on campus. There was no in-between. Young men have been forging their own path, and rejecting the cowboy or tough cop image for at least 40 years. This is healthy. Men are allowed to be more whole, now.
Weak, wimpy men fear strong women and long for the "good old days" when women were submissive and even a Don Knotts kind of guy could be lord of the manor.
Truly masculine men aren't in the least threatened by empowered women.
Lol right? All this feminism talk and it’s movement the 30 plus years has made being a real “Man” somehow a terrible thing for society. Most TV shows especially comedy’s make us men look like doofuses and not strong or very masculine.
Men and women have there roles biologically speaking, and both have their strengths and weaknesses which should be accepted from a natural point of view. But PC culture has destroyed this thinking and why masculinity is looked down upon in certain parts of this country.
Most women in general that are straight, prefer masculine men. Not sissy Beta males that are unsure of themselves. They want Alphas that have an edge to them and take control of situations.
This is a womans natural instinct.
Mansplaining right there. LOL
Please define a beta male. Because I think I have a "manly man" for a husband, but I also like having a voice in my marriage. And sometimes I think "Have an edge to them and take control of situations" is code for "I'm the boss, and the woman has no say in any decision making. The way God intended it." And at that...I gotta roll my eyes.
It's NOT a woman's instinct to be under someone's thumb.
Given how some of the men here seem to define masculinity, my response is that you guys already had your chance for the last couple thousand years. You blew it. Never again. End of discussion.
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Lol right? All this feminism talk and it’s movement the 30 plus years has made being a real “Man” somehow a terrible thing for society. Most TV shows especially comedy’s make us men look like doofuses and not strong or very masculine.
Men and women have there roles biologically speaking, and both have their strengths and weaknesses which should be accepted from a natural point of view. But PC culture has destroyed this thinking and why masculinity is looked down upon in certain parts of this country.
Most women in general that are straight, prefer masculine men. Not sissy Beta males that are unsure of themselves. They want Alphas that have an edge to them and take control of situations.
A lot of guys hate the tough-guy image forced on them. And that's nothing new; men now in their 40's talk about how they had no role models in high school or college, other than tough, emotionless types, or the rare gay teacher or professor on campus. There was no in-between. Young men have been forging their own path, and rejecting the cowboy or tough cop image for at least 40 years. This is healthy. Men are allowed to be more whole, now.
it's hard to separate all the positive aspects of feminism from a small number which I have to view as negative due to my libertarian (please note the lower-case 'l') orientation.
What I'll describe as "consensus" feminism seems determined to attach itself to egalitarian socialism, dragging everyone down to some lowest common denominator -- with the stagnant overly-socialist nations of Western Europe as the role model.
The American nation was founded, and prospered precisely because it was founded, by the rebels, outcasts and non-conformists of which the European nobility sought to rid itself. That made for a rough game, and one in which strong-willed men dominated because of the nature of a pre-industrial society. And all of the globe's 15-or-so "tested", mature democracies, none of which has since taken up the sword against another member of the group, evolved from this; it is the seekers of power, and the practicioners of mercantilism, from both the low Right and the Low Left, who turned Europe into a charnel house between 1914 and 1945.
That standard no longer rules; the nature of a de-industrializing society is such that opportunities are now much more-evenly distributed. If there is a gap, it's mostly because, as, explained by the late financial guru Bernard Melzer, "There is an old boys' network, but no old girls' network".
At least, not yet -- but things are moving in the right direction.
I want to live and let live; I've attained retirement age, but I still try to remain a participant in both our society and, to a lesser degree, our economy, but I can't do so from a back-row desk in an environment modeled after an over-sensitized and over-politicized classroom.
That, unfortunately, seems to be the overbuilt structure many of our faux leaders have in mind; and I, for one, have no more use for Big Sister than for Big Brother.
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Please define a beta male. Because I think I have a "manly man" for a husband, but I also like having a voice in my marriage. And sometimes I think "Have an edge to them and take control of situations" is code for "I'm the boss, and the woman has no say in any decision making. The way God intended it." And at that...I gotta roll my eyes.
It's NOT a woman's instinct to be under someone's thumb.
Masculinism has existed for 100s of years and still does. It's called a patriarchal society.
This.
I will tell you that I respect people who jump into crisis situations and handle things. Many of these types are male, and I thank them from the bottom of my heart, because I am not this way at all. I respect those essential qualities as needful in a society. There are wome who have similar instincts, and I want to be their friends!
It seems to me there is a lot of fear among men about changing mores. Our modern culture does seem to be changing. If you doubt that it needs to, please ask some older women about their early lives as they socialized, and when they were in the workplace, and when they were out and about. Ask them when they were afraid, or passed over, or were bullied, or were not listened to. It would not hurt to talk to some younger women about the same things.
And while you are at it, you could share some parts of your lives as well.
There are some really good men out there. I think we just need to listen to each other and try for understanding.
Just wondering....LOL.....I give it one more year and it will turn.
Are you referring to the word itself? What's wrong with manliness? They mean the same thing.
Masculinism (manliness) won't ever become a new "thing". Masculinism is old already, it has always existed, it's been a "thing" since the dawn of time and I doubt it will ever change or go away.
Feminism started to become a "thing" around 120 years ago and has been steadily on the rise ever since then. I doubt it will go away either, now that the ball is rolling and picking up speed all the way.
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