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Old 04-13-2008, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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I happen to believe that the ethics and morals of humanity have been improving for centuries and I also believe they will continue to improve in the future. The reason I believe this is simply by examining history and the behavior of human beings and what was considered acceptable in the past but is not acceptable today. If we look back just a half century ago the United States was going through some very turbulent and violent times due to the issue of civil rights for black people. I was born during a time when there was racial segregation and separate schools for each race and even separate drinking fountains which seems laughable today for the foolishness of the idea but racism was not a laughing matter in those times. Now we have a black Presidential candidate and the racial issue doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all. I see that as a very positive change. If you look further back in history life was much more difficult for the average individual. The majority of people were poor and a small group of people were very wealthy and exploited the poor workers in every way possible. This goes back to the industrial revolution which began in England at a time when people began living in cities instead of living on farms as factories became the main employers of the average man. London became the first city to have a million inhabitants but as the books by Charles Dickens (possibly my favorite author) describe the misery and despair of people working in sweatshops or jailed in debtors prisons, life was extremely difficult. The labor movement in the early 1900's created the social pressure for the ability to form unions and establish safe and humane working conditions and without a doubt was the reason that we have a middle class today. Well, I could go on but I don't want to write a book. My personal feeling is that our morals and the way in which we treat each other is gradually improving as each new generation comes along. What is your opinion on this matter?
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Old 04-13-2008, 05:15 PM
 
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I think they are but then again, people 200 years from now will undoubtedly laugh at our terribly backwater and savage-like morality
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:21 PM
 
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There is considerable moral degradation in the U.S. currently, and it has drastically increased since 1960 which was about the time that God and his absolute moral laws where replaced with sexual hedonism, arrogant entitlement, twisting of our freedom laws to accomodate anything a person desired to do whether right or wrong , pornography as an easy outlet for adults and kids thereby ruining families and marriages, 4000 developing americans in the womb being sucked into a sink by a heinous method of ripping limb from limb ... per day...because perpetuating sexual hedonism and liberty is more important than human life, driveby shootings, and the list goes on and on.

If you cant see the anarchy which has resulted, then you are indeed blind. You know its bad when the President of the United States has to publicly put out a plea for americans to return to a foundation of morals and values.
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Old 04-13-2008, 07:58 PM
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Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I think that the quality of life for most human beings is better and better. However, I think morals and ethics are generally getting worse.
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Old 04-13-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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i think people are less ethical, i think they are out for themselves and dont care who they step on to get there. people seem lazy and want to do as little as possible while getting paid as much as they can even if it means cheating. in the past few years i have become more and more aggrivated by how people have become.
maybe we are not pilaging and burning down villages, but it's all relative to the modern life style.
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Old 04-13-2008, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Southern Ca
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what are you basing the morals and ethics on....what is being used as the compass??
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Old 04-13-2008, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Boise
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I happen to believe that the ethics and morals of humanity have been improving for centuries and I also believe they will continue to improve in the future. The reason I believe this is simply by examining history and the behavior of human beings and what was considered acceptable in the past but is not acceptable today. If we look back just a half century ago the United States was going through some very turbulent and violent times due to the issue of civil rights for black people. I was born during a time when there was racial segregation and separate schools for each race and even separate drinking fountains which seems laughable today for the foolishness of the idea but racism was not a laughing matter in those times. Now we have a black Presidential candidate and the racial issue doesn't seem to be much of an issue at all. I see that as a very positive change. If you look further back in history life was much more difficult for the average individual. The majority of people were poor and a small group of people were very wealthy and exploited the poor workers in every way possible. This goes back to the industrial revolution which began in England at a time when people began living in cities instead of living on farms as factories became the main employers of the average man. London became the first city to have a million inhabitants but as the books by Charles Dickens (possibly my favorite author) describe the misery and despair of people working in sweatshops or jailed in debtors prisons, life was extremely difficult. The labor movement in the early 1900's created the social pressure for the ability to form unions and establish safe and humane working conditions and without a doubt was the reason that we have a middle class today. Well, I could go on but I don't want to write a book. My personal feeling is that our morals and the way in which we treat each other is gradually improving as each new generation comes along. What is your opinion on this matter?
I think some have improved and some have either slid back, or remain unchanged when they could be changed for the better. There are at least laws that say you can't beat a person or deny them a job based on skin color, and to an extent, there is a little more equality. On the other hand, many of the ways we channel and circulate money are just short of theft or outright scams. Violence is as common as the cold. I think greed and violence have room for improvement, and perhaps have even been set back over the last hundred years. I think it's great that sex isn't a filthy, dirty, sin against humanity any more, but on the other hand it is everywhere (mostly because it sells). As far as morals go, the bottom line is always money, and we get hazy ethics when it comes to cash. To me, the way we handle money is insulting.
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Old 04-13-2008, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Quality of life is so much higher. For the most part, people are not fighting for survival, they are fighting for status.

As far as morals and ethics. It is so much less about community anymore, but more about the individual. It's all about what I am owed, what I am due, rather than what is best for society as a whole.

With morals, they have been in question since the begining. It is a joke to think that all of the problems we are having as far as morals are new, they have been around forever. It is just more in your face than in the past, between tv getting more lax and of course the internet, anything and everything is literally right at your fingertips.
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Old 04-13-2008, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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When the kids stop committing crimes...then you can say that our morals and ethics have improved...but when kids continue in the pack mentality against other people...like the incidents posted on YouTube...or the beating of the homeless man in Fort Lauderdale...then I'd say our morals and ethics AREN'T getting better, because it is taking the intervention of the law to correct their behavior.

When behaviors no longer need "correction", then it would be an improvement.
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Old 04-14-2008, 04:16 AM
 
Location: Toronto; Canada
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Default The problem of the rabble vs. the elite.

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The majority of people were poor and a small group of people were very wealthy and exploited the poor workers in every way possible. This goes back to the industrial revolution which began in England at a time when people began living in cities instead of living on farms as factories became the main employers of the average man.
But the Ethics got worse for the ivory towers when this one happened. It's a lot like the environmentalists these days won't get recognized for anything good and humanistic. I guess what the solution was at the time was to look for convenience.
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