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Old 04-20-2010, 07:09 PM
 
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Apart from the arguement that God considers Casual Sex immoral , is
there anything inherently wrong with Casual Sex as Americas favorite
pastime ? Without mentioning God at all , lets consider the issue
:






Why isnt it correct to want casual sex? ------


1. 33 STD's among over 40,000,000 adult Americans . 2 fatal, some
cause sterility for life, a popular one is the precursor to cervical
cancer in women, many are permanent for life, many cannot be
prevented with a condom.

2. Risk of pregnancy even with condoms or birth control pill.

3. Aborting the developing human being in the womb is murder because
its personhood was established at conception according to 80 of the
worlds top Medical Doctors and Scientists who met with the U.S.
Congree in the 1980's.

4. The act of sex is THE most intimate thing a person can share with
another and it cements the 2 people together . When it is casual, it
is superficial because one or both participants do not want the
relationship to be cemented ; it is only for temporary fun .

5. When the friendship parts ways, emotional hurt and damage takes
place which usually makes the person hurt untrusting in the future and/
or suffer from abandonment in their Mind.

6. It causes men and women to look at the opposite sex in an unhealthy
manner ; each sees the other being self centered to just get ones
needs met. , then basically disposed of.

7. The sexual union was meant for more than just a mere copulation
(the using of another for sexual gratification). It was designed for
maximum commitment that allows both people to grow together and bond
together for a lifetime.

8. Men look down on women in general when they are easy to have sex
with because they have little or no self respect.

9. It causes worship of the Human Body to the point it becomes an
idol.

10. It cause many boys/men (especially) to brag to their peers about
thier conquest , which is wrong.

11. It blinds both people to each others real identity , faults,
issues, etc... to where they cannot think objectively about them. This
causes many couples to eventually get married with all kinds of
problems going into the marriage with.

12. It easily becomes and addiction like a drug.

13 . It causes jealously and often rage, when a person has multiple
sex partners at the same time .

14. It breaks up relationships, marriages, families , when people
stray from them to have casual sex.

15. Revenge often occurs if a b/f or husband finds out who you are for
messing with their g/f or wife.....or vice versa. Many have lost their
lives from being in a triangle .

16 . It is a bad example to young people and they often get into
casual sex at a very early stage and can get shattered emotionally.

17. It often springboards into other sexual behaviour such as Porn
addiction .

18 . It often allows for single parent mothering which is a difficult
task and life.

19. The male doesnt feel obligated or responsible if a birth occurs .,
and is unlikely to help the Mother thru the pregnancy and/or
financially support his child.

20. Many single parent Mothers go on welfare which puts a burden on
the Country's tax payers and Government.

21 . It breeds a selfish , hedonistic, and narcissitic attitude and
life especially for the male.

22 . It cheapens the view of all women/girls and causes the male to
view them as being only good for one thing.

23. It brings shame to Parents IF they taught their children right
from wrong when growing up.

24. It shows Parents that what they taught their kids growing up ,
wasnt taken seriously and is unimportant. It demeans the values their
Parents had and wanted for their children.

25. It shows a lack of self control by not waiting till marriage and
making the wedding night special like its supposed to be.

26. If the couple end up getting married, statistics show their
marriage is less likely to make it then they have to go thru the gut
wrenching time of divorce which may include children who feel the
burden.

27. It will increase the number of STD's in circulation the more
casual sex is done with others. Same for the emotional consequences.

28. If makes a person feel they are entitled to use another for an
orgasm , when they are not entitled at all.

29 . We all know, inherently, that it is wrong to have sex outside of
marriage but we will decieve ourselves willfully so we can do whatever
we want .

30. It is a sign of immaturity because one cannot control oneself.

31 . It increases our sex saturated society which is already
thoroughly out of control .

32. It often breeds an attitude of 'I could care less just so long as
I get my fun in' , which plays out in other areas of ones life.

33. It makes a person look down on good morals and values because what
they are doing isnt correct.

34. A person makes up excuses for continuing the behaviour by
suppressing their moral conscience, thus willfully duping themselves.
That is never a correct thing to do.

35 . After a lifelong pursuit of casual sex, it leaves one feeling
unfulfilled in life because sex isnt the ultimate reason for living.

36. It inhibites getting into a deeper relationship with another so a
person never gets to experience a deep satisfying relationship...only
a surface one because its all centered around momentary sex.

37. It cheats both people out of knowing one another on a deep
emotional level because casual sex doesnt allow for such a thing.

38. It renders both people to nothing more than forest animals seeking
to get their own needs met...when human beings are above forest
animals and have infinite intrinsic worth .

39 . It causes a lack of self dignity within a person because deep
down inside, they know casual sex is wrong to do.

40 . It causes people to look down on those who desire to refrain from
having casual sex and encourages name calling in order to help justify
their pursuit of a casual sex lifestyle. Thus, they self decieve
themselves which is always wrong to do.

41 . Many feel pushed into casual sex in order not to be alone, or to
keep the other around so they can *feel they have someone significant
in their life.

42 . Many want to exit the lifestyle due to guilt but they feel
enslaved to it because a bond has deepened with the other person which
they cant break free from.

43 . An irresponsible and uncaring mass Media fools the people into
casual sex from the relentless advertising, tv programs, radio
programs, movies, billboards, songs, etc...which promises so much
fun . So the immoral mass Media wins at the expense of common people
who were decieved.

44 . The value of a person becomes based on how well they perform and
satisfy the other person ; if they dont do a good job, then they get
left for someone else until they become a bore then they get left for
someone else...ad infinitum.

45. It puts a big emphasis on 'what can you do for ME ?' , thereby
making YOU more important than anyone else or anything else. It leads
to strong ego-centricism thereby making oneself their own god.

46. It becomes bad for an entire Nation when sexual hedonism runs
rampant as it has in EVERY previous era of history .

47. It is wrought with many other repercussions and consequences which
have not been mentioned above.

48. Our sexual nature is only ONE part of our Being and there is
nothing that says it has to be used by us.

49. People can feel complete satisfaction in life minus having casual
sex with another. In America, we've been duped into thinking we cant.

50. Many Companies make money off of people who are sexually
irresponsible , who are duped to thinking it is their *right* to have
illicit sex , and who think they cant live without it . It is wrong to
allow such Companies to experience huge financial gain from their
exploiting your genitals to be used in a wrongful manner .


Why do you suppose these are not discussed openly in schools or
in public ? Could it be due to self centered entitlement regardless of the costs ?

Last edited by 007.5; 04-20-2010 at 07:12 PM.. Reason: add
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 007.5 View Post
Apart from the arguement that God considers Casual Sex immoral , is
there anything inherently wrong with Casual Sex as Americas favorite
pastime ? Without mentioning God at all , lets consider the issue
:






Why isnt it correct to want casual sex? ------


1. 33 STD's among over 40,000,000 adult Americans . 2 fatal, some
cause sterility for life, a popular one is the precursor to cervical
cancer in women, many are permanent for life, many cannot be
prevented with a condom.

2. Risk of pregnancy even with condoms or birth control pill.

3. Aborting the developing human being in the womb is murder because
its personhood was established at conception according to 80 of the
worlds top Medical Doctors and Scientists who met with the U.S.
Congree in the 1980's.

4. The act of sex is THE most intimate thing a person can share with
another and it cements the 2 people together . When it is casual, it
is superficial because one or both participants do not want the
relationship to be cemented ; it is only for temporary fun .

5. When the friendship parts ways, emotional hurt and damage takes
place which usually makes the person hurt untrusting in the future and/
or suffer from abandonment in their Mind.

6. It causes men and women to look at the opposite sex in an unhealthy
manner ; each sees the other being self centered to just get ones
needs met. , then basically disposed of.

7. The sexual union was meant for more than just a mere copulation
(the using of another for sexual gratification). It was designed for
maximum commitment that allows both people to grow together and bond
together for a lifetime.

8. Men look down on women in general when they are easy to have sex
with because they have little or no self respect.

9. It causes worship of the Human Body to the point it becomes an
idol.

10. It cause many boys/men (especially) to brag to their peers about
thier conquest , which is wrong.

11. It blinds both people to each others real identity , faults,
issues, etc... to where they cannot think objectively about them. This
causes many couples to eventually get married with all kinds of
problems going into the marriage with.

12. It easily becomes and addiction like a drug.

13 . It causes jealously and often rage, when a person has multiple
sex partners at the same time .

14. It breaks up relationships, marriages, families , when people
stray from them to have casual sex.

15. Revenge often occurs if a b/f or husband finds out who you are for
messing with their g/f or wife.....or vice versa. Many have lost their
lives from being in a triangle .

16 . It is a bad example to young people and they often get into
casual sex at a very early stage and can get shattered emotionally.

17. It often springboards into other sexual behaviour such as Porn
addiction .

18 . It often allows for single parent mothering which is a difficult
task and life.

19. The male doesnt feel obligated or responsible if a birth occurs .,
and is unlikely to help the Mother thru the pregnancy and/or
financially support his child.

20. Many single parent Mothers go on welfare which puts a burden on
the Country's tax payers and Government.

21 . It breeds a selfish , hedonistic, and narcissitic attitude and
life especially for the male.

22 . It cheapens the view of all women/girls and causes the male to
view them as being only good for one thing.

23. It brings shame to Parents IF they taught their children right
from wrong when growing up.

24. It shows Parents that what they taught their kids growing up ,
wasnt taken seriously and is unimportant. It demeans the values their
Parents had and wanted for their children.

25. It shows a lack of self control by not waiting till marriage and
making the wedding night special like its supposed to be.

26. If the couple end up getting married, statistics show their
marriage is less likely to make it then they have to go thru the gut
wrenching time of divorce which may include children who feel the
burden.

27. It will increase the number of STD's in circulation the more
casual sex is done with others. Same for the emotional consequences.

28. If makes a person feel they are entitled to use another for an
orgasm , when they are not entitled at all.

29 . We all know, inherently, that it is wrong to have sex outside of
marriage but we will decieve ourselves willfully so we can do whatever
we want .

30. It is a sign of immaturity because one cannot control oneself.

31 . It increases our sex saturated society which is already
thoroughly out of control .

32. It often breeds an attitude of 'I could care less just so long as
I get my fun in' , which plays out in other areas of ones life.

33. It makes a person look down on good morals and values because what
they are doing isnt correct.

34. A person makes up excuses for continuing the behaviour by
suppressing their moral conscience, thus willfully duping themselves.
That is never a correct thing to do.

35 . After a lifelong pursuit of casual sex, it leaves one feeling
unfulfilled in life because sex isnt the ultimate reason for living.

36. It inhibites getting into a deeper relationship with another so a
person never gets to experience a deep satisfying relationship...only
a surface one because its all centered around momentary sex.

37. It cheats both people out of knowing one another on a deep
emotional level because casual sex doesnt allow for such a thing.

38. It renders both people to nothing more than forest animals seeking
to get their own needs met...when human beings are above forest
animals and have infinite intrinsic worth .

39 . It causes a lack of self dignity within a person because deep
down inside, they know casual sex is wrong to do.

40 . It causes people to look down on those who desire to refrain from
having casual sex and encourages name calling in order to help justify
their pursuit of a casual sex lifestyle. Thus, they self decieve
themselves which is always wrong to do.

41 . Many feel pushed into casual sex in order not to be alone, or to
keep the other around so they can *feel they have someone significant
in their life.

42 . Many want to exit the lifestyle due to guilt but they feel
enslaved to it because a bond has deepened with the other person which
they cant break free from.

43 . An irresponsible and uncaring mass Media fools the people into
casual sex from the relentless advertising, tv programs, radio
programs, movies, billboards, songs, etc...which promises so much
fun . So the immoral mass Media wins at the expense of common people
who were decieved.

44 . The value of a person becomes based on how well they perform and
satisfy the other person ; if they dont do a good job, then they get
left for someone else until they become a bore then they get left for
someone else...ad infinitum.

45. It puts a big emphasis on 'what can you do for ME ?' , thereby
making YOU more important than anyone else or anything else. It leads
to strong ego-centricism thereby making oneself their own god.

46. It becomes bad for an entire Nation when sexual hedonism runs
rampant as it has in EVERY previous era of history .

47. It is wrought with many other repercussions and consequences which
have not been mentioned above.

48. Our sexual nature is only ONE part of our Being and there is
nothing that says it has to be used by us.

49. People can feel complete satisfaction in life minus having casual
sex with another. In America, we've been duped into thinking we cant.

50. Many Companies make money off of people who are sexually
irresponsible , who are duped to thinking it is their *right* to have
illicit sex , and who think they cant live without it . It is wrong to
allow such Companies to experience huge financial gain from their
exploiting your genitals to be used in a wrongful manner .


Why do you suppose these are not discussed openly in schools or
in public ? Could it be due to self centered entitlement regardless of the costs ?
Well, I guess you Christians had better get your act together then, since Christians are the biggest offenders in almost every category you mention...

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There is evidence that within the U.S. strong disparities in religious belief versus acceptance of evolution are correlated with similarly varying rates of societal dysfunction, the strongly theistic, anti-evolution south and mid-west having markedly worse homicide, mortality, STD, youth pregnancy, marital and related problems than the northeast where societal conditions, secularization, and acceptance of evolution approach European norms.
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html (broken link)

Perhaps you should have posted this on the Christian forum.
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:57 PM
 
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So many opinions, so few facts.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Western NC
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Originally Posted by 007.5 View Post
Apart from the arguement that God considers Casual Sex immoral , is
there anything inherently wrong with Casual Sex as Americas favorite
pastime ? Without mentioning God at all , lets consider the issue
:






7. The sexual union was meant for more than just a mere copulation
(the using of another for sexual gratification). It was designed for
maximum commitment that allows both people to grow together and bond
together for a lifetime.
Uh, uh, uh... I sense god creeping in on this one. And, you promised not to mention him! I feel betrayed.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What is this obsession some people have with sex, and why is it often coming from believers.

There's more bs in the original post than in a speech given by a congressman or senator.
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Old 04-20-2010, 08:42 PM
 
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What is this obsession some people have with sex, and why is it often coming from believers.

There's more bs in the original post than in a speech given by a congressman or senator.
There's more bull**** than a bovine breeding farm.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:10 AM
 
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Well, I guess you Christians had better get your act together then, since Christians are the biggest offenders in almost every category you mention...


Journal of Religion and Society (http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html - broken link)

Perhaps you should have posted this on the Christian forum.
No...alleged Christians who dont live out the ideology and mandates of the Christian Faith might...but certainly not those who have a close walk with The Lord Jesus Christ and whom are born again and thus have forsaken the present culture and its superficial destructive ways. The biggest offenders has to go to the group who embrace moral relativism and who desire that for their life , for, if morals are relative then its man who can decide whats right for oneself -- and certainly the using of other human beings for illicit orgasms are a favorite pastime for such to fulfill desired narcissism thru sexual hedonism ( aka: making Self ones god) .
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:17 AM
 
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No, I agree with the OP... casual sex is not nearly as good as serious sex.

BTW, we are a bunch of stiff-necked, heel covering prudes compared to Europe.
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:23 AM
 
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[quote=Chango;13834202

BTW, we are a bunch of stiff-necked, heel covering prudes compared to Europe. [/quote]

But...the moral standard is NOT Europe or any other form of moral relativism so we can do as we wish. Thats a little uncomfortable for those of us who think nothing of using another human being for temporary narcisstic gratification then moving onto the next set of genitals , isnt it ? Ergo, God BETTER NOT be real ... and blind random natural causes including our little imaginary Pond Protozoa who gave us our 206 bone/600 muscles/60 major anatomical systems all working together, better be --even if its impossible, its ALL we have to give us the justification we need. Correct Sir ?
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Old 04-21-2010, 08:30 AM
 
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Wait, you mean that because I'm a moral relativist and an atheist, I should have been having casual sex with multiple partners with a carefree attitude all this time?

I didn't get the memo.

I. DIDN'T. GET. THE . MEMO!
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