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Old 10-07-2010, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Maricopa, AZ
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Default Dogs Barking in Gilbert

Let me start by saying I am a dog lover. I am a dog owner, in fact. I am the kind of dog owner that actually TAKES my dog to the dog park, and walks him and let's him INSIDE the house..Apparently my neighbors are not.

I moved here to Gilbert about 4 months back. First night here I did not sleep one wink for the literal "kennel" in the neighborhood. There were at least 5 dogs barking all night. I called the police, put in ear plugs, tried a sound machine AND fan..no good-did not sleep a wink. Not a good start to my new home.

The next day I realized it is not just a night thing. People in this neighborhood leave their dogs outside ALL day and ALL night and they just bark. I don't understand how they and/or their neighbors stand it. Do people here never open their windows let alone like a SECOND of quiet?? It is driving me batty. I am not sleeping, and I am stressed ALL the time. I should mention my husband works from home and this has caused some major issues for him.

Over the following few months I have continued to call the police, leave notes, knock on doors (I tried this first thinking maybe if I asked nicely??). I was told by one neighbor that if I ever came back to their house I would be sorry and they would press charges. I even put out a sonic bark machine..and the main barking culprit STOLE it off my wall. I have no proof of this but it was just gone one day and not in my yard or theirs (and there is no where else it could fall). The police can do nothing but ask them to do something about it. The only next steps I have are to find a neighbor to press formal charges and then you must spend the following weeks (they have six to eight weeks to respond to the charge) tracking the barking and documenting, etc and then you and the other neighbor must take them to court. At this point the judge still may find in their favor. What I am saying here is that I have NO JUSTICE. They can just continue to get away with making everyone miserable listening to their dog bark NON STOP.

One neighbor with a barking dog moved away(that was nice), and others have made a serious effort, but three remain. Two dogs are owned by one and one by another.

I am at my wits end. I get woken anywhere from 4-5AM every day.. I feel like I have tried everything..Any suggestions (Do not recommend any harm to the dog please, it is not the dog's fault. It is the fault of the irresponsible dog owner).

Thank you.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:02 PM
 
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There were at least 5 dogs barking all night. I called the police, put in ear plugs, tried a sound machine AND fan..no good-did not sleep a wink. Not a good start to my new home.
The next day....
Your first night in the new house and you were already calling the police? On (at least) five neighbors? That seems pretty extreme.

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am at my wits end. I get woken anywhere from 4-5AM every day.. I feel like I have tried everything..Any suggestions
My first suggestion would have been, if dog barking bothers you so much (or any noise, for that matter, it doesn't have to be dog noise...), spend as many hours as practical in your soon-to-be new home and neighborhood and find out what noises are there. You would have heard the barking dogs and would have known not to live there.
My second suggestion would have been to be neighborly that second day you were in your home. Had you made friends instead of enemies of your neighbors, they may have been more willing to help you quiet their dogs. Calling the police that first night I'm sure did more harm than good.
Third suggestion? Either take legal action, move, or get used to the noise. If you use the law to force your neighbors to quiet their dogs, be aware that you will likely be hated by your neighbors (sounds like you may already be).
Good luck.
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Old 10-07-2010, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Maricopa, AZ
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I only called on one neighbor that night, to be clear. It was directly behind me, a large dog barking NON stop. It was 3AM. I was not going to go knocking on doors at 3AM-nor would I ever. I needed to wake up at 6AM. Again, I did everything I could possibly do to drown out the noise before calling the police.

Also, I moved in from across the country and could not spend time in my future neighborhood. I guess I was naive enough to think that people actually take responsibility for their own dogs.

I did try to be neighborly that second day. In fact, I went, introduced myself and kindly asked if there was anything they could do about their barking dog. A neighbor saw me and we got to talking, and she said they have moved their master bedroom and have not opened their windows in years because of the barking dogs.

I appreciate your advice. I guess I will be moving at the end of our lease (unfortunately have eight months left) and hoping that people are actually responsible and respectful where I move. Apparently being irresponsible and just plain rude is accepted and expected in the neighborhood we moved into.

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Old 10-07-2010, 08:24 PM
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Location: East valley
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WoW ! try to get someone to sublease your place. I would not put up with such an irresponsible neighborhood for one minute. Keep calling the cops. Keep knocking on the doors or get their phone numbers. There is no excuse for such behavior. Think of the poor dog for petes sake. They want to be with their people. They don't want to be shut up away in the yard all alone. I am sure you were trying to be neighborly and kind at first. BUT this is way too m uch. Everyone needs their sleep. Complain to the HOA, or the manager or the Maricopa County Animal Control. Don't give up. You are in the right. Ritchie is wrong.
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:09 AM
 
Location: North Phoenix/Moon Valley
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Originally Posted by simplym View Post
I only called on one neighbor that night, to be clear. It was directly behind me, a large dog barking NON stop. It was 3AM. I was not going to go knocking on doors at 3AM-nor would I ever. I needed to wake up at 6AM. Again, I did everything I could possibly do to drown out the noise before calling the police.

Also, I moved in from across the country and could not spend time in my future neighborhood. I guess I was naive enough to think that people actually take responsibility for their own dogs.

I did try to be neighborly that second day. In fact, I went, introduced myself and kindly asked if there was anything they could do about their barking dog. A
neighbor saw me and we got to talking, and she said they have moved their master bedroom and have not opened their windows in years because of the barking dogs.

I appreciate your advice. I guess I will be moving at the end of our lease (unfortunately have eight months left) and hoping that people are actually responsible and respectful where I move. Apparently being irresponsible and just plain rude is accepted and expected in the neighborhood we moved into.
If you are leasing then have you involved the owner of the property? Do you think the owner knew about the barking problem before you signed the lease? If so then you might explore breaking the lease because the owner didn't disclose the fact to you before you signed the lease. You can call for information at the following:

Residential Landlord & Tenant Act
A publication of the Arizona Secretary of State’s Office
State Capitol, Phoenix, Arizona
Contact Us:
Offices hours are:
8 a.m. to 5 p.m.
Monday through Friday
General Information:
602.542.4285 or 800.458.5842

Another thought I had was if the house you are leasing has an HOA. If so then the owner can contact them and see what the HOA management company can do about the noise nuisance.

Lastly, do you have or can you get a phone number for the dog owners. If so, then every time the barking disturbs you, no matter what time, call them and stand at an open window and hold the phone out for them to hear their own dog barking in stereo. Good luck.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:33 AM
 
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A lot of neighborhoods have at least one or two all day and nighters barking. They have kids and dogs and a lot of "family" noise.
I have a friend who couldn't take it as well so she finally got herself 3 acres out in Maricopa so she could have some peace from it. Then she realized that the dogs all roam free out there and they would come right up in her yard and bark at her when she got in her car, etc.
I feel sorry for anyone with intolerance for noise, it would be hard, especially if you can't concentrate but I'm afraid you are going to have a harder time finding a completely barking dog free area. I think you've done a bang up job getting any of those people to listen to you, most out here would just think you were a nut and over exaggerating. Good luck with that, hard issue for sure.
If you are over 55 you could try an adult living community, people might be more into controlling their noise level, or you can do what I've tried on occasion and blast the Dog Whisperer show out your window and see if they catch on. lol
I have 3 kids, no dogs, but I figure my kids make enough noise for me to call it even with the dog barking neighbors so I don't really fight it. lol
I'm curious of where you came from that you didn't run into this issue? Are we different in this issue because of the suburbs or something?
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:39 AM
 
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I lived on a lake out here and years back and it was the noisiest place I've ever lived . The one neighbor had a doggy door where his dog would go out at 2 am every night and bark and howl. The guy across the street went to work all day, leaving his doggie in the yard, barking. The other neighbor down the street--same deal. And, every time a boat would go by the lake guy, the dog would bark like no one's business. My husband talked to him about quieting the dog and he said, "What do you want me to do about it?" Well, he let his grandkids walk and play near the lake, on the dock, so what would you expect? But, after that, the dog was quiet. Well, everytime the dog saw my husband or me, for that matter, he'd quiet down, and walk in the house. Disipline is good for all living things.
No one should put up with it day in and day out. If the owner isn't responsible, they need to be fined or cited into responsibility.
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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"9. The neighbor's dog is barking all the time, can something be done about the constant noise its driving us crazy?
See Municipal Code section 6.2
Yes, barking dogs are handled by the Gilbert Police Department and the Code Compliance Department on a complaint basis, the Municipal Code section on barking dogs reads as follows:
It is unlawful to keep or harbor any dog which by frequent, habitual or continued barking, yelping or howling shall cause an annoyance or inconvenience to a neighbor or to people passing to and from upon the public streets or sidewalks. No summons and complaint shall be issued nor shall there be a conviction for violation of this subsection unless there are at least two complaining witnesses from separate households who shall have signed such complaint and shall have testified at trial.
It is important to note that the Town cannot move forward with court action without having the required two complainants"


Source: FAQs - Municipal Code and Land Development Code
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:24 AM
 
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I am sure you were trying to be neighborly and kind at first.... Ritchie is wrong.
So calling the cops the very first night is the "neighborly" thing to do? Wow, glad you're not my neighbor!

I agree that dog barking can be annoying. I've said this before in a different thread, I've been on both sides of the "wall" before. Sometimes people over hype this. My "bad barking dogs" got several complaints one place I lived... all from one neighbor who would complain at any noise. I was a renter, so I got out of there.
BTW, my dogs only bark when there is someone on the property they don't like. 99% of the time they are quiet. It's that 1% that annoyed that neighbor. Sorry, but I want my dogs to bark when they don't like somebody who is in my yard. It offended someone, so I moved when I had the chance.
I've also knocked on someone's door before to ask them to please quiet their dogs, because it was non-stop and loud. I never resorted to calling the police or taking legal actions or making threats or anything like that. When you are friendly first it seems the owner tends to be more understanding and willing to work with you to solve the problem. That's my experience, anyway.
Good luck.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:55 AM
 
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Wink That dealt with

As a dog owner and lover you surely understand that dogs are a reflection of their humans. If the bad behavior of a dog, a direct correlation to what kind of human you are dealing with.

If possibly worth pursuing, I would not count on the police to resolve this matter. With much experience you are likely to discover how worthless they are in such matters, or how little they care.

If the sonic bark machine actually worked, or might, then try it again. Only this time get something more powerful, put it in a location or casement from which it cannot be tampered with. If feeling that problematic, then also add an inconspicuous security camera (day/night) which would more than serve as evidence in court if need be.

If the later sounds kind of extreme, unfortunately that is the neighborhood and position you unwittingly put yourself in. While moving might well be the best option, the consideration in needing to remain for now how best to approach this. Remember that the cretins you are dealing with will likely remain as such, forever. But their actions can be influenced. In retrospect, once you are surely relocated, what will have been worth it?

And NEXT time, as I speak from experience, consider the environment of any new home carefully. As in how it will be from season to season, from night to day, and most precisely who you neighbors are and might be . . . meaning anyone in a global radius near enough to have some unpleasant impact upon you.

Meanwhile, my sympathies.
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