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Unread 11-09-2010, 03:01 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Now, you have people that are told they are overqualified! what?
Overqualified is just a euphemism for "too old".

 
Unread 11-09-2010, 03:07 PM
 
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I thought so....


and it is all because employers here want to keep all the money and don't want To pay fair wages....simply enough.....

Is 30 to old? or it starts at 25???


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Overqualified is just a euphemism for "too old".
 
Unread 11-09-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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It's got nothing to do with "here". It's the same everywhere. Employee payroll is an employers biggest expense, and so is the FIRST place they cut costs. Sometimes it's just greed, and other times it's economics. Regardless, the older you get, the more you're going to hear this.
 
Unread 11-09-2010, 04:24 PM
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Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Overqualified is just a euphemism for "too old".
Nah, it doesn't mean "too old". It means "We'd like to have you work for us but we refuse to pay you what you're worth".
 
Unread 11-09-2010, 05:03 PM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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Not really. If they wanted you, but didn't want to pay you what you're worth, they'd give you a low-ball offer. That happens a lot in this economy, people taking jobs that are a step backwards, just to put food on the table. On the other hand, if an employer says you're overqualified and turns you away with no offer at all, that means they don't like you, but can't legally give you the real reason why.
 
Unread 11-09-2010, 10:15 PM
 
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"It's got nothing to do with "here". It's the same everywhere. Employee payroll is an employers biggest expense, and so is the FIRST place they cut costs. Sometimes it's just greed, and other times it's economics. Regardless, the older you get, the more you're going to hear this."

Keep the head though. Even though it's not going to get better in the Phoenix labor market, people can still do things like being even more frugal and continue consolidating with loved ones.
 
Unread 11-10-2010, 08:25 AM
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Location: Verde Valley AZ
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Not really. If they wanted you, but didn't want to pay you what you're worth, they'd give you a low-ball offer. That happens a lot in this economy, people taking jobs that are a step backwards, just to put food on the table. On the other hand, if an employer says you're overqualified and turns you away with no offer at all, that means they don't like you, but can't legally give you the real reason why.
I've only been told I was "over qualified" for a job only one time. And that was years ago but I was also TOLD that they couldn't pay me what I was worth at the time. It was an entry level job, I was desperate and would've taken it. The ones who didn't like me just didn't hire me, regardless of my experience. However, most restaurants will hire anybody! Oh...the job I applied for, way back when, wasn't a restaurant job. It was bookkeeping/accounting.
 
Unread 11-10-2010, 08:44 AM
 
Location: San Jose, CA
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I've only been told I was "over qualified" for a job only one time. And that was years ago but I was also TOLD that they couldn't pay me what I was worth at the time. It was an entry level job, I was desperate and would've taken it.
So, they lied. What employer is going to turn down a more qualified candidate who's willing to work for the same pay as a less qualified candidate? That's like you going into a car dealer and saying, "That's too nice of a car for the money. Please give me a worse one."
 
Unread 11-10-2010, 10:55 AM
 
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kdog,

It is a problem with the inherent importance of money in a employer decision being made. Unless there is another way to justify the expense, much of it comes down to employee cost in turning people away.
 
Unread 11-11-2010, 02:48 PM
 
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@Discovery1 THANK YOU. My thought is exactly. When I go on monster.com or dice.com, I see several job ads for people who have skills in computing (programming). People don't realize that the unemployment rate is a mix of "college graduates" vs. "non graduates". Job prospects are better for people who are schooled or trained in a certain profession (in other words: have some type of skill that is desirable).
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