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Old 02-07-2011, 02:29 PM
 
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Default Arizona or Nevada?

My husband and I live on the east coast. We grew up here and wish to move west with our family. We are deciding between the Scottsdale/Chandler area of Arizona or the Henderson area in NV. Can anyone help with as much info as possible as to which would be the better place to raise a family? My grandmother lives in Henderson and I have visited twice, once 5 years ago and once about 10 years before that. I loved it but she also lived in a 55+ community.

I also understand that there is crime and such in Las Vegas and Phoenix, however I have lived my whole life close to Philly, Camden NJ and Wilmington DE, so I am realistic.

Any intelligent info you can offer is greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:33 PM
 
Location: South Tempe, AZ
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Scottsdale/Chandler is really not an "area", you are talking about 35 miles or so from the south end of one to the north end of the other. Except for the weather, which is the same, you really need to look at those separately. I haven't spent enough time in Henderson lately to be able to compare the two (or three), but I'm sure others can help you with that. Taxes are different in AZ and NV overall, thanks to the gambling revenue. I would think any of them are good places to raise a family.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:50 PM
 
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Thanks. I really should have put Scottsdale or Chandler. We are looking at a few different cities on the east side of Phoenix. Scottsdale, Chandler and I think Gilbert were the three.
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Old 02-07-2011, 08:25 PM
 
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More New Yorkers in LV, Henderson is very nice and Summerlin is even better. But....Phoenix has a much more diversified economy, and Vegas will always be reliant on knowing how much they are going to make off of people before they get off the plane. I will live in Hermosillo, Mexico before I live in LV again, and I am zero percent Mexican. LV is one of the few places that makes the K-12 Systems in Phoenix look decent. The driving is worse in LV, too, but there are serious rush hours in Phoenix, but they don't go on all weekend like NY-PHI-BAL-DC.
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Old 02-08-2011, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Eugenius
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My best friend lives in Las Vegas and she hates it, the only art museums are in casinos (as she is always complaining about), the traffic is horrible, the only jobs are in casinos making very low pay IF you can find a job (my friend has a job but has been looking for another one for YEARS). Gambling problems are rampant, the nightlife is good but can burn you out quickly if you let it. But they have great buffets! They have a first friday art walk like downtown Phoenix but it is small and not very good. She stays because of family. But there are some great companies that located out there due to the corporate tax breaks, like Zappos. But still the main jobs engine is tourism and that can only go so far.

And you can openly walk around with alcohol which may be ok for some people but not for all and carries its own problems.

She continually wishes that the mob still controlled Las Vegas!!

I don't know about Henderson, it seems like an outlying suburb and is probably like the burbs in Phoenix that you mentioned (Chandler, Gilbert). The commute will be rough and there aren't many freeways in LV and they are always perpetually working on them it seems.

Having visited the two places (and lived in Phx), I would choose the Phoenix area by a slim margin.
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Old 02-08-2011, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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I would never want to raise my children within driving distance from the strip.
I read that 74% of homeowner's are under water now in their homes and I can't imagine how long it will take to climb back up. You may find a cheap home, but you will own a cheap home for a very long time.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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Are the commutes really that bad? We wanted to live on the eastern side of Phoenix, in one of the nicer towns but my husband may be getting a job in Avondale. From what I understand the better schools are in Chandler, Tempe, Gilbert and Scottsdale - the eastern side. He currently has about a 45min commute to work. Initially we wanted to decrease that time but don't want to decrease the quality of living. Any suggestions?
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Are the commutes really that bad? We wanted to live on the eastern side of Phoenix, in one of the nicer towns but my husband may be getting a job in Avondale. From what I understand the better schools are in Chandler, Tempe, Gilbert and Scottsdale - the eastern side. He currently has about a 45min commute to work. Initially we wanted to decrease that time but don't want to decrease the quality of living. Any suggestions?
When we first moved here 6 years ago my husband drove from north Peoria to Chandler every day. He was always a commuter and had some grueling drives in the past. I can say he did not last very long in this traffic, about 6 mos. It gets to you when it is 115 and you are sitting in traffic and then the road warriors are just too much sometimes. We think it is best if you live close to work and besides, gas is not going down it seems.
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Old 02-09-2011, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I moved from the Philly area to San Fancisco and then to Arizona (twice). Both areas you mentioned were hit hard by the bubble burst and property values are little better that what it cost to build the house. Both economies were dependent on constant housing growth and when that failed the houses bought by investors went belly up. Traffic is pretty bad in both too. The good part is that you won't be buried in as many blizzards.
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Old 02-09-2011, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I grew up in Phoenix and lived in Vegas for 4-5 months several times, and have been going there for years. I also lived in the SF Bay Area for a long time.

Vegas is 1/2 the size of Phoenix, has a little more LA flavor as it depends on Southern CA for various services. The politics are not as divisive and crazy as in Phoenix, and Vegas is a little bit more racially diverse, kind of a cross between Phoenix and the LA metro area.

Vegas has a union presence because of the casino industry, and AZ is a right to work state. I never gamble, and only went to the strip area to go to Fashion Show Mall, or for a convention or concert.

Most locals don't go to the strip. That is for tourists. The rest of Vegas is just like any other city. Both cities have upscale shopping.

Either city in my opinion is ok to live in. It just depends on where you can make money. I would suggest driving around each city for 4-5 days to get a feel of things. Vegas is 285 miles from Phoenix and about a 51/2 hour drive. Phoenix and Vegas folks drive back and forth all the time.
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