Is the economy improving in Phoenix area? (Glendale, Scottsdale: short sale, foreclosures)

[azriverfan.]

The economy is improving but it still has a long way to go before anyone can claim it's strong. It's still going to take some time. An article in the Arizona Republic stated 2015 would be the big year for the Arizona economy. If you have a secure job and home in Colorado, I wouldn't gamble and move here yet. I would give it a year or two.

[El_Waiboi]

Originally Posted by observer53

Well, and there is the high end outlet mall down by Wild Horse Pass. It's hard to get too excited about those until we actually see how they do, given the two (or more) dying malls and all the other vacant shopping space. New stuff is a good sign, but the gaping holes in existing centers are not.

I would really love to see Cityscape turn into a success...

[azriverfan.]

Originally Posted by shiphead

I know 4 highly skilled people in four different industries having this exact same problem in Arizona, not specific to Phoenix.
Oil, Education, IT, specifically networking, and manufacturing. You could easily get 15+ years from each of them.

Just because they have 15 years of experience doesn't mean they have experience relevant to the job they are applying for. You see that all the time. People think they can do a particular job because they have experience in a related field but that doesn't mean they have experience and skills for that job. Then those people will criticize the economy and state no one is hiring when in reality those people didn't have the qualifications for that particular job. This phenomenon is more common than people think. Someone will brag they have 15 years of programming software except they have no experience programming the type of software for the job they are applying for or they have no experiencing programming software for that particular industry. People need to realize that companies would rather hire someone with 3-4 years of relevant specified experience than someone with 20 years of experience in a related field. A person with PhD in mathematics or physics might be the smartest person on the planet but if they have no direct experience in the job they are applying for, guess what they aren't getting hired. People need to do a better job applying for jobs they are truly qualified for but the problem is they often can't recognize they don't meet those qualifications.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by El_Waiboi

I would really love to see Cityscape turn into a success...

So would I, because I work near downtown. But, I would never call that a "mall".

[jimj]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Just because they have 15 years of experience doesn't mean they have experience relevant to the job they are applying for. You see that all the time. People think they can do a particular job because they have experience in a related field but that doesn't mean they have experience and skills for that job. Then those people will criticize the economy and state no one is hiring when in reality those people didn't have the qualifications for that particular job. This phenomenon is more common than people think. Someone will brag they have 15 years of programming software except they have no experience programming the type of software for the job they are applying for or they have no experiencing programming software for that particular industry. People need to realize that companies would rather hire someone with 3-4 years of relevant specified experience than someone with 20 years of experience in a related field. A person with PhD in mathematics or physics might be the smartest person on the planet but if they have no direct experience in the job they are applying for, guess what they aren't getting hired. People need to do a better job applying for jobs they are truly qualified for but the problem is they often can't recognize they don't meet those qualifications.

Very good points! Also even when they have tons of experience they could easily be bumped out of the running due to age (yes it happens) or expected salary. I've worked at places where they'd rather train a person up to the level they want than pay more $$$ for someone who's very experienced.
I was once told "you have exactly what we're looking for and would be perfect, your salary range is fair BUT, if we hire you and the other people in the department find out what we're paying you it'll cause trouble that I don't want to deal with so I'm sorry we have to decline".
The dept mgr that told me this was about 10 years younger than me as was the rest of the dept staff.

[shiphead]

Originally Posted by azriverfan.

Then those people will criticize the economy and state no one is hiring when in reality those people didn't have the qualifications for that particular job. This phenomenon is more common than people think. .

Originally Posted by jimj

Very good points! Also even when they have tons of experience they could easily be bumped out of the running due to age (yes it happens) or expected salary. I've worked at places where they'd rather train a person up to the level they want than pay more $$$ for someone who's very experienced.
I was once told "you have exactly what we're looking for and would be perfect, your salary range is fair BUT, if we hire you and the other people in the department find out what we're paying you it'll cause trouble that I don't want to deal with so I'm sorry we have to decline".
The dept mgr that told me this was about 10 years younger than me as was the rest of the dept staff.

lol you're funny azriverfan. I had a good laugh, thanks for that. Jim, bumped for age happens all the time here. At one of the large corporations, here in Phoenix recently laid off all their management, for 20 something managers, and paying them half the rate of course. It was great when I learned about it... so great.

[LS35a]

I live in Arrowhead. 5 of the 100 houses in my gated neighborhood have been short sales or foreclosures in this calendar year.

Everywhere I look I see business's closing.

I keeping hearing the 'it's getting better' stuff, but you can't prove it by me.

If a house is in real nice shape (as in completely remodeled) and it's less than $250k, it will sell pretty fast. Other than that, not so much.

[El_Waiboi]

Originally Posted by observer53

So would I, because I work near downtown. But, I would never call that a "mall".

Neither would I, and it does have a looooong way to go, but to avoid saying anything negative, I would call it "a step in the right direction".
I am a downtown resident and I am doing my part to aide its success by patronizing Cityscape almost daily.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by El_Waiboi

Neither would I, and it does have a looooong way to go, but to avoid saying anything negative, I would call it "a step in the right direction".
I am a downtown resident and I am doing my part to aide its success by patronizing Cityscape almost daily.

Good for you. I was here when downtown was nowhere you wanted to be. The improvement has been substantial. There's been other threads talking about this, and I don't want to take this one off topic, but the slowdown in the economy is one of the things that has slowed down the redevelopment a bit. I'm happy to see any progress. It will never be like the downtowns in other cities, nor does it need to be.

[xXMajestic_SwagXx]

I agree the Economy has a long way to go to be perfect, however it's doing great I'am seeing some new business moving here because of the rising economy. I do research on the economy as well as real estate here in the valley, and so far so good house prices are still cheap but are increasing gradually every month. The Listed price of the house I currently own went up 14% in just one month. I'm thinking of selling it when I think it's a good time to sell. Crime has gone down yes, but its not perfect like any huge city there will always be crime, it's just not as bad as it used to be. Im a clean freak and so far I'm satisfied with the cleanliness here. When I go out I do see street cleaners on the highways mostly around 11:00 pm, As for the heat Yes It's VERY HOT! But after a while it just becomes normal, well at least to me it does. The best places to live in THe valley would be Paradise Valley, Fountain Hills, Gilbert, Scottsdale, North Valley, And Peoria. They are very clean very family oriented and actually quite pretty with the natural desert landscaping and the palm trees. Hope This Helps Out