View Poll Results: Should they stay or go?
It's fine with me if they go.
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I don't really care either way.
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I hope they stay.
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04-21-2011, 03:47 PM
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Yeah. The deal that was cut yesterday seals it. 2 billion dollars for TV rights. The amount that Hulsizer wants from Glendale is only five percent of that. I would think the deal with NBC would be renegotiated for at least 5% less if they pull out the 12th largest (and growing as you state) US TV market.
Very true, they signed a 2 billion dollar deal with Versus and NBC. The 100 million is what Hulsizer would need to buy the team but it comes down to less than that; it's approximately 25 million they are fighting over at this point.
These television networks would probably demand money back in return should the NHL lose the 12th largest U.S. television market. The NHL is not going to let this tv market walk over 25 million let alone 100 million.
04-21-2011, 04:00 PM
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Standing outside in line waiting to buy a hockey ticket when its 115 degrees just doesn't make sense to me.
04-21-2011, 04:21 PM
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Standing outside in line waiting to buy a hockey ticket when its 115 degrees just doesn't make sense to me.
Hockey is a winter sport.
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Someone mentioned a soccer team, now that makes more sense.
I wish
04-21-2011, 04:37 PM
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Hockey is a winter sport.
I wish
Why not both? Put a Major League Soccer team here too....but preferably in Tempe
04-21-2011, 04:38 PM
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I was surprised when the Jets moved here.
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Please, Hockey and Soccer are just not American sports no matter how much trendy soccer moms sip their lattes and discuss liberal politics. Hockey certainly never made any sense in the desert southwest. I say don't let the door hit them in the kiester and stop using public money to fund these speculative ventures.
04-21-2011, 06:07 PM
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Please, Hockey and Soccer are just not American sports no matter how much trendy soccer moms sip their lattes and discuss liberal politics. Hockey certainly never made any sense in the desert southwest. I say don't let the door hit them in the kiester and stop using public money to fund these speculative ventures.
Cubs, Dodgers, any spring training Cactus league team... All these teams got money from the public and they do not even cal Phoenix home. Only here for a month or so...
04-21-2011, 06:08 PM
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Please, Hockey and Soccer are just not American sports no matter how much trendy soccer moms sip their lattes and discuss liberal politics. Hockey certainly never made any sense in the desert southwest. I say don't let the door hit them in the kiester and stop using public money to fund these speculative ventures.
Hockey doesn't make sense in any warm weather climate let alone the desert southwest. It's not like hockey has been played for generations and there is a plethora of iced over lakes in L.A., Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Miami, Nashville and Dallas.
04-22-2011, 03:32 PM
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Hockey doesn't make sense in any warm weather climate let alone the desert southwest. It's not like hockey has been played for generations and there is a plethora of iced over lakes in L.A., Atlanta, Tampa Bay, Miami, Nashville and Dallas.
But there is a plethora of Northeasterners and Midwesterners that tend to be rabid hockey fans. Problem is, they prob'ly won't be going to local games unless their team is playing an away game in their new home town.
Anyway, I don't see many high schools in the Valley of the Sun crooning over their boys' hockey teams. Why? Cuz there aren't any......
Growing up in Michigan, hockey in the high schools and younger age leagues were prevalent. About as popular as football.
Just for the record, the Thrashers weren't Atlanta's first NHL team. The Flames moved to Calgary from Atlanta........
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But there is a plethora of Northeasterners and Midwesterners that tend to be rabid hockey fans. Problem is, they prob'ly won't be going to local games unless their team is playing an away game in their new home town.
Anyway, I don't see many high schools in the Valley of the Sun crooning over their boys' hockey teams. Why? Cuz there aren't any......
Growing up in Michigan, hockey in the high schools and younger age leagues were prevalent. About as popular as football.
Just for the record, the Thrashers weren't Atlanta's first NHL team. The Flames moved to Calgary from Atlanta........
We have a plethora of Midwesterners and Canadians here. How long have you lived here? I'm surprised to hear any Valley resident unaware of the large number of residents from Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Canada that reside here; they are all over the place, how could you miss them.
In fact, there are probably more Canadians that live in the Valley than many of those previously mentioned cities. And those aforementioned teams are all struggling too with the exception of the Lightning, Kings and Stars. The Lightning won a Stanley Cup. And the Stars won two Stanley Cups and the Kings had Gretzky in the 90's and went to the Stanley Cup so their teams have had more success and money invested to earn their following. The Carolina team won a Stanley Cup and that team is struggling with attendance.
And there is high school hockey in the Valley in addition to leagues so I don't know where you are getting that boys' hockey doesn't exist here. Of course, you aren't going to have the same presence here that you would have in the upper midwest and northeast but that is true for all warm weather cities not just Phoenix.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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