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Old 11-02-2007, 08:59 PM
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Well, the concenus seems to be when we move to Az. is to rent out first, even if visited before...I know Queen Creek is more primative than Chandler, but home price's are so much more attractive...As far as work goes, want to continue in sales, so maybe won't have to commute to Phoenix...Now the question for all you Phoenix area old timers...If you could live anywhere in the U.S., would this area be in the top two ??? Or maybe a better to phrase it, is do you have any regrets about living in Phoenix area ??? And if put to a vote, are there more good things as opposed to bad ??? thanks..Jersey Don I also guess there may be another small town in area that is also terrific
Queen Creek would not be in my top two. My top two would be the Biltmore district in Phoenix or the Arrowhead area of Glendale/Peoria. The top two in price range are Surprise (where I am now) and Gilbert.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:00 AM
 
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This is a MAJOR problem right now and seems to be getting worse. Hopefully Phoenix will remain a nice place for the lower middle class, but I just don't see even that as the price of starter homes are out of so many people's reach! IMHO, 200K for a starter home is a LOT of money. Especially since there is very little to do here that DOESN'T cost a lot of money. Seriously, how often do you *really* drive to San Diego or Vegas? And if you've got kids and you are stuck indoors for most of the year, with no basements, they are bored to tears. My advice to all would be take advantage of every opportunity your school offers as far as sports and clubs go. It will be the cheaper alternative to keeping them busy and out of trouble!
If you are coming from California or a very close state and can drive home to visit family and they can come to you, you will be fine. But anywhere else - especially if it's green and NOT hot for most of the year , yeah give it three years, you'll be moving too.
I agree. 200k for a starter? Especially when you know what kind of an interest rate a "starter borrower" gets.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:07 AM
 
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Good morning folks!

We are once again debating on whether to move to the Phoenix area. Hubby is from the north central states whereas I am a Phoenician by birth. Long ago I lived in the Glendale area but have lived in the high desert of California for the past 30+ years.

What areas would you recommend for a semi-retired couple to live in the Phoenix area?

I have fond memories of Encanto Park homes, visiting old Scottsdale, going to the Town and Country shopping center, etc.

Oh, yes, are Hallcraft homes still a good buy?

I also remember watching Wallace and Ladmo (before the Ladmo bags) when kids would choose their toys from the toy shelf. Such good memories.

Any way, please let me know your recommendations for this homesick Arizona native.

LadmoFan
You will not recognize this place. It is not like what you remembered at all. It is all built up. Places where there were dirt roads and seemed so far away-are all paved over now. Please come for an extended vacation prior to moving back. It is nothing like the 70s-80s.
I am unsure if Hallcraft still even builds here. This city has been built up now from nearly Casa Grande to Carefree and Fountain Hills to Surprise. It is enormous and I will say it again-I have been here since the early 80s. Come for a visit. Rent, don't buy. Decide for yourself. It is like a little Los Angeles now.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:09 AM
 
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AZ is most DEFINATELY NOT in my top 2! I have lived here for 31 years, with the exceptional 1 yr move here and there. The only reason I'm still here, is I'm finding it hard to take my 2 young children away from my parents. They are very close. Oh, that and the fact that I know the city so well. Other than those 2 reasons, I would walk away and never look back. I hate the fact that you can't go outside from May to October.

If I had to pick any area of town as my favorite, I'd probably say old Litchfield Park. Not the new homes there, but the OLD Litchfield Park area.
Other than where in town I would pick-I could have almost written what you wrote in your first paragraph. Good to meet you. Will give you a positive rating for sure.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:18 PM
 
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Well I remember the old Litchfield Park back when there were ACTUAL crops growing. I think there were grapevines and cabbage...but my old memory is fading fast. LOL!

I know Phoenix has grown --- a lot --- as we head over every couple years or so. I was amazed (and glad) for the freeway that goes past Luke AFB and allows easier passage through Phoenix. I can remember my grandpa going across town on city streets to see his friends in Scottsdale. He lived in the Glendale area. What a trip!!

I do have mixed feelings about living in a large city as where we live now has warm days and cool nights with with low crime. The big reason we are thinking about heading back to the big town is to allow our children more education/employment opportunities. Also, we are getting older and having better access to medical care is important as our town does not have any specialists to speak of. Most specialists either visit monthly or perform telemedicine. It would be nice to go see a doctor around the corner rather than driving almost 100 miles to see a specialist.

Another factor for our considering living in an urban area is the ability to shop at bookstores, sewing stores, hobby stores and the like. We have no such thing here. Well we do have a sad used bookstore :< but that's about it.

Also, I would love to shop at Trader Joes and again the nearest Trader Joes is almost a 100 miles away.

That's why I had to smile when I read that Queen Creek was so primitive. To me Queen Creek would be civilized. :>

Again, we haven't made any decisions but chatting with folks like you will help in our decision making process.

Many thanks,

LadmoFan

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Old 11-04-2007, 02:17 AM
 
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Well I remember the old Litchfield Park back when there were ACTUAL crops growing. I think there were grapevines and cabbage...but my old memory is fading fast. LOL!

I know Phoenix has grown --- a lot --- as we head over every couple years or so. I was amazed (and glad) for the freeway that goes past Luke AFB and allows easier passage through Phoenix. I can remember my grandpa going across town on city streets to see his friends in Scottsdale. He lived in the Glendale area. What a trip!!

I do have mixed feelings about living in a large city as where we live now has warm days and cool nights with with low crime. The big reason we are thinking about heading back to the big town is to allow our children more education/employment opportunities. Also, we are getting older and having better access to medical care is important as our town does not have any specialists to speak of. Most specialists either visit monthly or perform telemedicine. It would be nice to go see a doctor around the corner rather than driving almost 100 miles to see a specialist.

Another factor for our considering living in an urban area is the ability to shop at bookstores, sewing stores, hobby stores and the like. We have no such thing here. Well we do have a sad used bookstore :< but that's about it.

Also, I would love to shop at Trader Joes and again the nearest Trader Joes is almost a 100 miles away.

That's why I had to smile when I read that Queen Creek was so primitive. To me Queen Creek would be civilized. :>

Again, we haven't made any decisions but chatting with folks like you will help in our decision making process.

Many thanks,

LadmoFan

LadmoFan
Not sure if I missed this in your previous post or not, but you will simply have to come and visit. It is nearly unrecognizeable from even 10 years ago. All of the things you need-health care, etc. is here-as we are a big city- but please visit before you even start looking for real estate. You may hate it now. It is so overdeveloped. It is so crowded. It is hotter, longer. Even from a few years ago. Today it was nearly 90. It is still summer here. We used to be able to cool off by now. I was having a conversation with some locals about how we cannot believe how late in the year it is and that we have had nearly no relief in the heat. I can't wait for a cool breeze or some rain. I really need it. Hope you are well.
Have a good one.
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:50 AM
 
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Well, the concenus seems to be when we move to Az. is to rent out first, even if visited before...I know Queen Creek is more primative than Chandler, but home price's are so much more attractive...As far as work goes, want to continue in sales, so maybe won't have to commute to Phoenix...Now the question for all you Phoenix area old timers...If you could live anywhere in the U.S., would this area be in the top two ??? Or maybe a better to phrase it, is do you have any regrets about living in Phoenix area ??? And if put to a vote, are there more good things as opposed to bad ??? thanks..Jersey Don I also guess there may be another small town in area that is also terrific
I would certainly advocate renting first but there is no need to rent for a year or any prolonged period. I would rent for 6 months and then buy a home. Your biggest challenge would be to pick an area you like. The valley is huge so you need to narrow down your neighborhood or city of choice before you go with a realtor. It will make searching a lot easier and your realtor will be better able to serve you. It will also enable you to find a realtor that specializes in that city or area.

I don't have any regrets about living in Phoenix. I do miss the more urban aspects of NYC, SF and Chicago but Phoenix also has aspects those cities lack. There is no such thing as a perfect city.

I guess I disagree with the majority regarding the weather. I love the weather here. I think it's an asset. It's perfect 8 months out of the year and really hot 4 months. When the sun is not beaming on you, it doesn't feel bad at all which is why the mornings and evenings are great. I don't notice the heat anymore to be honest with you. It's clear and sunny 300 days out of the year. Yeah, it was hot today but it's not 90 the entire day. It was 90 something at 3 o-clock but it cooled down to 79 tonight which feels like 65 in a dry climate. I have a lot of fun in the summer too. The snowbrds are gone so you can get into restaurants without waiting for an hour. They have great specials at many of the finest restaurants. I love entertaining outside and it's fun to have pool parties and dine outside with friends in the summer. I go to D-back games in the summer. Sometimes, I will go to Lake Powell.

Actions speak louder than words. There is a lot of people complaining on these messageboards but there is also a reason Arizona overtook Nevada for the first time in years to be ranked #1 as the fastest growing state in the county. People wouldn't be moving here if it wasn't an amazing place to live. Also, the people who are complaining on these boards are still here in Phoenix. Ask them why they haven't left despite all their complaints. Obviously, there is something they enjoy about this city otherwise they wouldn't be here despite their criticisms.

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Old 11-04-2007, 04:59 PM
 
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I've found that most people prefer surroundings that are similar to what they had while growing up. Just my opinion.
Very well said! I HATED Phoenix when I first moved here....now it has grown on me. However, it still wouldn't be in my top 2, due to my upbringing. Luckily I found the Encanto area otherwise I wold have been gone. I love the old homes and all the great ma and pa type shops and restaurants. My biggest complaints about Phx is all the chains and lack of walkable shopping districts. Also, to get away for the weekend is a 5 hr drive. It very much depends on what is important to you and your standards of living.
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Old 11-04-2007, 05:45 PM
 
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Hi Ladmo! If I could do it again I would have spent huge money, on a smaller home in a better area of CA,, I moved here inticed by the huge house,, but I miss my family/friends much more than I thought. Its been 9 months and I haven't really established a new social environment... But only because of my home sickness would I go back. I have this beautiful house but no-one that I love in it. You know we all made these big plans to visit,, but its not enough. LIVE BY THE PEOPLE YOU LOVE,, and if you cant,,, AZ is just fine for me.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:45 PM
 
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I would certainly advocate renting first but there is no need to rent for a year or any prolonged period. I would rent for 6 months and then buy a home. Your biggest challenge would be to pick an area you like. The valley is huge so you need to narrow down your neighborhood or city of choice before you go with a realtor. It will make searching a lot easier and your realtor will be better able to serve you. It will also enable you to find a realtor that specializes in that city or area.

I don't have any regrets about living in Phoenix. I do miss the more urban aspects of NYC, SF and Chicago but Phoenix also has aspects those cities lack. There is no such thing as a perfect city.

I guess I disagree with the majority regarding the weather. I love the weather here. I think it's an asset. It's perfect 8 months out of the year and really hot 4 months. When the sun is not beaming on you, it doesn't feel bad at all which is why the mornings and evenings are great. I don't notice the heat anymore to be honest with you. It's clear and sunny 300 days out of the year. Yeah, it was hot today but it's not 90 the entire day. It was 90 something at 3 o-clock but it cooled down to 79 tonight which feels like 65 in a dry climate. I have a lot of fun in the summer too. The snowbrds are gone so you can get into restaurants without waiting for an hour. They have great specials at many of the finest restaurants. I love entertaining outside and it's fun to have pool parties and dine outside with friends in the summer. I go to D-back games in the summer. Sometimes, I will go to Lake Powell.

Actions speak louder than words. There is a lot of people complaining on these messageboards but there is also a reason Arizona overtook Nevada for the first time in years to be ranked #1 as the fastest growing state in the county. People wouldn't be moving here if it wasn't an amazing place to live. Also, the people who are complaining on these boards are still here in Phoenix. Ask them why they haven't left despite all their complaints. Obviously, there is something they enjoy about this city otherwise they wouldn't be here despite their criticisms.
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