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Old 11-15-2011, 12:14 PM
 
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Can being old be considered a viral disease? I have a touch of it but I'm only 55 and I don't get much chance to spread it cause I'm married.

My hoa fees, taxes, utilities, insurance etc etc are running over $1k a month even when I'm not there and I'm only there a couple of months. When I'm there, I spend more money golfing etc but I do search hard for cheap golf. I probably put as many $'s into Phoenix's economy as I do up here. Thats why I have a couple jobs I guess.

I'm getting better on the freeway though. Some people think that if it says 75mph, thats the maximum but really, that is the minimum!
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Prescott, AZ
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The only gripe I have about snowbirds is that when in the valley, on 3 separate occasions, there was an out of state vehicle. On all 3 separate occasions these vehicles while driving down the highway, the first one threw out a lit cigarette. The other time the vehicle threw out a garbage bag on the highway and the 3rd time the vehicle was going 15 MPH below the speed limit while on the highway.

Could it be just coincidence? Sure. Yet some will see it as being inconsiderate because this is not their "home", they view them as tourists.

Not too many snowbirds up north in Prescott & Flagstaff but they do occasionally come up from the valley and visit for a day or two during winter.

How do you tell the difference between a snowbird and a college student, or Embry Riddle student who chooses to keep their plates from their home states as it's cheaper.
And Phoenix and Prescott both have lots of these types.
You would not have a clue.
I will guess we assume in the mountains that when it's cold they are not snowbirds.
And you cannot assume that all snowbirds are old either. I have owned several RVs and done a lot of traveling in my time and can tell you for a fact that today that there are a number of people that snowbird and make their living right out of their RVs with the internet and a computer. Just like working from home but on the road. I even met one couple that home schooled their two kids and lived in their 40' MH all the time and just went where ever they felt like going. He made his living over the air as such on the internet.

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Old 11-24-2011, 02:14 AM
 
Location: Apache Junction
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I'm a snowbird. While I'm not a senior, I am a snowbird nonetheless. I can tell you that I am a stickler about tipping appropriately and that I despise generalizations based on biased and uneducated opinions. I am a good citizen who takes pride in my home and community, no matter where that home might be.
I pack out what I pack in. I don't litter.
I am mindful of my environment and those around me and I am proud to be Canadian. I am also proud to be a part time resident of the USA. My son is American. I pay taxes here, buy insurance here, buy products here and am fierce about buying locally and supporting my community.
Please.... don't generalize. It makes you look foolish and it builds up a mindset which is unhealthy given today's climate. I am like you. I pay taxes, I love my family and God, I work hard, I care about the environment and my neighbours and I am passionate about living a good life free of anger and hate for a people or country who I do not understand. I bleed red, just like you. My tears flow just the same as yours.
Please educate yourself and don't let your fears and ignorance about people who are older than you or who are from another country inhibit your ability to embrace all people of any country of origin. To post such unsubstantiated and hateful words based solely on bias and discrimination does none of us any good.
Let's embrace our differences and seek to understand that which we do not understand. To do any different only underscores your fear and ignorance. I truly believe that you are better than that.
It's not too late for you and if you promise to not sling slander at this Canadian snowbird, I promise not to use the words "Ugly American". Either phrase does such a deep and ugly injustice. Do you not agree?
Do yourself and your countrymen a favour and tone down the rhetoric. Judge each person individually (if you must judge) and offer the hand of kindness at each and every opportunity. You just might be surprised at what you discover.
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Old 11-24-2011, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Gilbert - Val Vista Lakes
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I'm a snowbird. While I'm not a senior, I am a snowbird nonetheless. I can tell you that I am a stickler about tipping appropriately and that I despise generalizations based on biased and uneducated opinions. I am a good citizen who takes pride in my home and community, no matter where that home might be.
I pack out what I pack in. I don't litter.
I am mindful of my environment and those around me and I am proud to be Canadian. I am also proud to be a part time resident of the USA. My son is American. I pay taxes here, buy insurance here, buy products here and am fierce about buying locally and supporting my community.
Please.... don't generalize. It makes you look foolish and it builds up a mindset which is unhealthy given today's climate. I am like you. I pay taxes, I love my family and God, I work hard, I care about the environment and my neighbours and I am passionate about living a good life free of anger and hate for a people or country who I do not understand. I bleed red, just like you. My tears flow just the same as yours.
Please educate yourself and don't let your fears and ignorance about people who are older than you or who are from another country inhibit your ability to embrace all people of any country of origin. To post such unsubstantiated and hateful words based solely on bias and discrimination does none of us any good.
Let's embrace our differences and seek to understand that which we do not understand. To do any different only underscores your fear and ignorance. I truly believe that you are better than that.
It's not too late for you and if you promise to not sling slander at this Canadian snowbird, I promise not to use the words "Ugly American". Either phrase does such a deep and ugly injustice. Do you not agree?
Do yourself and your countrymen a favour and tone down the rhetoric. Judge each person individually (if you must judge) and offer the hand of kindness at each and every opportunity. You just might be surprised at what you discover.
This is an amazing post, and there is nothing I can add except to say thank you for being a voice of reason.

Here's wishing everyone a very happy Thanksgiving day.
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Old 11-27-2011, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Riverside County
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I'm a snowbird. While I'm not a senior, I am a snowbird nonetheless. I can tell you that I am a stickler about tipping appropriately and that I despise generalizations based on biased and uneducated opinions. I am a good citizen who takes pride in my home and community, no matter where that home might be.
I pack out what I pack in. I don't litter.
I am mindful of my environment and those around me and I am proud to be Canadian. I am also proud to be a part time resident of the USA. My son is American. I pay taxes here, buy insurance here, buy products here and am fierce about buying locally and supporting my community.
Please.... don't generalize. It makes you look foolish and it builds up a mindset which is unhealthy given today's climate. I am like you. I pay taxes, I love my family and God, I work hard, I care about the environment and my neighbours and I am passionate about living a good life free of anger and hate for a people or country who I do not understand. I bleed red, just like you. My tears flow just the same as yours.
Please educate yourself and don't let your fears and ignorance about people who are older than you or who are from another country inhibit your ability to embrace all people of any country of origin. To post such unsubstantiated and hateful words based solely on bias and discrimination does none of us any good.
Let's embrace our differences and seek to understand that which we do not understand. To do any different only underscores your fear and ignorance. I truly believe that you are better than that.
It's not too late for you and if you promise to not sling slander at this Canadian snowbird, I promise not to use the words "Ugly American". Either phrase does such a deep and ugly injustice. Do you not agree?
Do yourself and your countrymen a favour and tone down the rhetoric. Judge each person individually (if you must judge) and offer the hand of kindness at each and every opportunity. You just might be surprised at what you discover.
I know this is a lot to ask, but just hear me out.

Can you please get more snowbirds like you to come to AZ, I also live in California as well, so - if you can, send them out here too.

Thanks!
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Apache Junction
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Thank you Bill and TBCasino. I sincerely appreciate your kind words.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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The slow driving is irritating, but there are people who move to the valley from places like the midwest who drive like that year round.

And tipping...well, most old people tip pretty bad, so why single out just the snowbirds?

Despite golf prices going up, I think snowbirds are fine, its always nice to meet new people from other parts of the country, isn't it? Start a conversation with a snowbird sometime, some of those old geezers are a crack up and have some good stories! I've had a blast getting paired up with random snowbirds out golfing before.


As for "viral diseases"...wtf? I'd rather take a chance on getting a cold or flu from someone than tuberculosis, whooping cough, or measles from some of the other 'visitors' coming from the other direction.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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The slow driving is irritating, but there are people who move to the valley from places like the midwest who drive like that year round.

And tipping...well, most old people tip pretty bad, so why single out just the snowbirds?

Despite golf prices going up, I think snowbirds are fine, its always nice to meet new people from other parts of the country, isn't it? Start a conversation with a snowbird sometime, some of those old geezers are a crack up and have some good stories! I've had a blast getting paired up with random snowbirds out golfing before.


As for "viral diseases"...wtf? I'd rather take a chance on getting a cold or flu from someone than tuberculosis, whooping cough, or measles from some of the other 'visitors' coming from the other direction.
Most of the people I met in my pottery class were from Canada and all very interesting with different countries of origin. I will be sad to see them leave.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Snowbirds are the main downside of winter here. When it finally gets nice enough to venture out, they are crowding everything. Can't wait till Easter and they are all gone home! We get about 3 weeks to enjoy our state before the heat hits.
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Old 02-05-2012, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Woodbury, Minnesota
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Yup all the Cadillac DTS's and Buick Regals with AZ tags are no where to be found around here
Sorry guys you may be in for a little delay at stoplights :/
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