My view on Scottsdale: wrong or right? (Phoenix, Sun City: real estate, apartments)
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This is my view of Scottsdale, and please note I do realize there are exceptions to the rules.
I view Scottsdale as a place where yuppies and the elderly move. The elderly keep to themselves, but the yuppies have made Scottsdale a place where status is everything, everything looks the same, men are supposed to go to the gym 10-15 times per day, women have invented a new "Silicon Valley", and every shopping center and housing development looks exactly the same. Nothing is unique, nothing can be special, and everything and everyone is the same; its clean, but dull. No one and no place has any unique character. The really sad part is, the people there seem to think they are superior to the rest of the nation when in fact they spend their time copying people from my part of the country except in an arrogant and flashy matter.
Personally, I find the majority of the people in Scottsdale as a combo of rednecks and yuppies. I find the landscape boring. I find the food to be below average. It is the very definition of suburban sprawl.
This is my view of Scottsdale, and please note I do realize there are exceptions to the rules.
I view Scottsdale as a place where yuppies and the elderly move. The elderly keep to themselves, but the yuppies have made Scottsdale a place where status is everything, everything looks the same, men are supposed to go to the gym 10-15 times per day, women have invented a new "Silicon Valley", and every shopping center and housing development looks exactly the same. Nothing is unique, nothing can be special, and everything and everyone is the same; its clean, but dull. No one and no place has any unique character. The really sad part is, the people there seem to think they are superior to the rest of the nation when in fact they spend their time copying people from my part of the country except in an arrogant and flashy matter.
Personally, I find the majority of the people in Scottsdale as a combo of rednecks and yuppies. I find the landscape boring. I find the food to be below average. It is the very definition of suburban sprawl.
Well, am I wrong?
Def some truth to what you just said. I live here and have seen the attitudes.
I doubt that. If they did take after after any place, it would probably be LA, not Jersey.
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Originally Posted by Smartone
The really sad part is, the people there seem to think they are superior to the rest of the nation when in fact they spend their time copying people from my part of the country except in an arrogant and flashy matter.
It's your opinion. You haven't stated any "rules" at all.
Are there some people like those you describe? Sure. But your distorted and limited view leaves out large segments of the population, and, as far as the "yuppies" group, reflects a common stereotype.
So you didn't enjoy your visit. Not an issue. No place is for everyone, to live in or to visit. One caveat--the impression someone gets from a visit can be quite different than the impression one gets actually living there (and I've lived in Scottsdale for several years, too, so I'm not just speaking as a local visitor). I will say that on a visit, you really can't say you learned anything about the "majority" of people in Scottsdale.
So, it's not a right or wrong issue, it's just your opinion based on a visit to parts of the city, nothing more, nothing less.
On some things.
-Old Town is unique. A bit touristy. Not many places in the US like it.
-We (AZ in general) are in no way trying to copy the NE. The best way to NOT make friends here is to say "well back in New York/Jersey/Philly/Boston...".
-I'll also have to disagree with you on the food. With a population of multimillionaires I would say that the food reflects it. Not every place that is good has a jacket and tie rule here. This is the SW, not the NE! Phoenix isn't in the Michelin guide...
There are pretentious people in every city. Scottsdale may have more than their fair share. If you don't mind it doesn't matter. **** um. Don't visit!
This is my view of Scottsdale, and please note I do realize there are exceptions to the rules.
I view Scottsdale as a place where yuppies and the elderly move. The elderly keep to themselves, but the yuppies have made Scottsdale a place where status is everything, everything looks the same, men are supposed to go to the gym 10-15 times per day, women have invented a new "Silicon Valley", and every shopping center and housing development looks exactly the same. Nothing is unique, nothing can be special, and everything and everyone is the same; its clean, but dull. No one and no place has any unique character. The really sad part is, the people there seem to think they are superior to the rest of the nation when in fact they spend their time copying people from my part of the country except in an arrogant and flashy matter.
Personally, I find the majority of the people in Scottsdale as a combo of rednecks and yuppies. I find the landscape boring. I find the food to be below average. It is the very definition of suburban sprawl.
Well, am I wrong?
I'd say you're painting with a VERY broad stroke and you probably haven't LIVED in the area very long.
First off, Scottsdale has MANY more families than it does yuppies and singles. I'd say the average Scottsdale resident is probably in their mid 40's with a family and has a mid-level executive/management job and has a household income in the $120K-$180K range. This would be much more representative than saying Scottsdale is only old people and yuppies driving Beamers.
I obviously don't know what you do but how many working men and women really have time to go to the gym even once or twice a day?! I do NOT know where you get the gym thing.
If you want to say every housing development looks the same..go to Sun City. Scottsdale has hundreds of developments and each has their own feel, I used to be in a real estate when I first graduated college and I learned very quickly how different developments are in the type of people they attract.
Rednecks?! Not sure how many "rednecks" can afford an average housing cost of $400K-$500K?!
I really think you're VERY misguided in your judgement, you obviously are bitter or haven't lived here for any period of time. Ever notice that most of those yuppies you see in Scottsdale usually go to Old Town to drink/party and then go back to apartments in other parts of the Valley?!
And everyone in New Jersey is like the Jersey Shore crowd, or they're mafia wanna-be's, like on The Sopranos. You live in New Jersey? What exit?
Yes, you're wrong, but it's so much easier to maintain a simplistic world view by over-generalizing and painting things with a broad brush. So go for it.
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Originally Posted by Smartone
This is my view of Scottsdale, and please note I do realize there are exceptions to the rules.
I view Scottsdale as a place where yuppies and the elderly move. The elderly keep to themselves, but the yuppies have made Scottsdale a place where status is everything, everything looks the same, men are supposed to go to the gym 10-15 times per day, women have invented a new "Silicon Valley", and every shopping center and housing development looks exactly the same. Nothing is unique, nothing can be special, and everything and everyone is the same; its clean, but dull. No one and no place has any unique character. The really sad part is, the people there seem to think they are superior to the rest of the nation when in fact they spend their time copying people from my part of the country except in an arrogant and flashy matter.
Personally, I find the majority of the people in Scottsdale as a combo of rednecks and yuppies. I find the landscape boring. I find the food to be below average. It is the very definition of suburban sprawl.
I'd say you're painting with a VERY broad stroke and you probably haven't LIVED in the area very long.
First off, Scottsdale has MANY more families than it does yuppies and singles. I'd say the average Scottsdale resident is probably in their mid 40's with a family and has a mid-level executive/management job and has a household income in the $120K-$180K range. This would be much more representative than saying Scottsdale is only old people and yuppies driving Beamers.
I obviously don't know what you do but how many working men and women really have time to go to the gym even once or twice a day?! I do NOT know where you get the gym thing.
If you want to say every housing development looks the same..go to Sun City. Scottsdale has hundreds of developments and each has their own feel, I used to be in a real estate when I first graduated college and I learned very quickly how different developments are in the type of people they attract.
Rednecks?! Not sure how many "rednecks" can afford an average housing cost of $400K-$500K?!
I really think you're VERY misguided in your judgement, you obviously are bitter or haven't lived here for any period of time. Ever notice that most of those yuppies you see in Scottsdale usually go to Old Town to drink/party and then go back to apartments in other parts of the Valley?!
I don't think the OP lives here at all-- the post is based on a visit.
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