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Old 04-23-2012, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Mi.
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I framed all over the Phx. valley from '95-2001 & had to move back to Mi. I loved phx. & want to move back,but I hear the economy is bad there as everywhere. Has the framming industry picked back up?
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:28 AM
 
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residential construction is about 15% of what it was......thanks to the lack of Border security, framing is usually referred to as "esceleta."
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Mi.
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Tyvm for the info. Mexicans were taking-over when I left. In fact, one of my last jobs was on an all-mexican crew.........learnad alot of spanish & consumed mucho cervesas!
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Old 04-23-2012, 12:52 AM
 
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they're usually pretty good carpenters; they make me nervous with the electrico, though. A degree with 12 hours of Math(s) or English will get you 18 per hour (no benefits, part-time) with the company I work for.
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Old 04-23-2012, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I framed all over the Phx. valley from '95-2001 & had to move back to Mi. I loved phx. & want to move back,but I hear the economy is bad there as everywhere. Has the framming industry picked back up?
It is starting to. Houses are selling like crazy and the inventory is dropping meaning new home starts are around the corner. There may be good opportunities at first because so many workers left in the bust.
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Old 04-23-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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I framed here in the valley from late '70's till '08 when the big bust hit. The last 12 years of that with the same co. They eventually had to close there doors like alot of the framing companies.
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:37 PM
 
Location: Mi.
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I c Y/B still has a web-page so they must still be afloat! Was wondering 'bout K.B.I., Durango, Olsen Bros.,& Guzman?
I spent about 1/2 my time there in Custom Homes & I still hv a couple contacts there to look-up. Highly skilled in the most challenging frames so I'm hoping that will be my savior! Also, while the huge developements may still struggle, there are still folks w/$ looking for the most exquisite as on the foothills,etc. TYVM 4 the info Slowest!
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Old 04-23-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Mi.
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TYVM also Cig! Appreciate the annonymity,very wise!
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Old 04-24-2012, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Santa Fe, NM/San Diego/Phoenix
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Building is slowly coming back. Framing as well as other trades should start to see a bit more light than whats been seen in the past. If you time it right you could do well for yourself. Arizona as you know has thrown out the Mexicans so anybody in the past who had to compete with their prices needs not to worry. If you are a good framer, you could reinstate your contractor's license and charge comparable (but high) wages for work. As a residential home builder I see how we're all going to have to pay dearly for work that we could get the Mexicans for a cheaper rate. I predict building a home these days is going to be very expensive. It will be interesting to see how many local people want to be putting new roofs in the middle of summer. Times are going to get very interesting.
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Old 04-25-2012, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Oregon & Sunsites Arizona
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The Mexicans were not thrown out. The illegals are being removed.
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