01-20-2013, 12:43 PM
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My husband and I are in our late fifties, both retired, with a daughter who is currently a freshman in high school. We currently live in a suburb of Minneapolis, MN. Our daughter is strongly pushing the idea of a temporary relocation (1 year) for some adventure and reinvention, etc. At first she was pushing Portland, OR but since our family all has issues with depression and we hear that can be a depressing place to live we decided against. Now she's discovered Chandler, AZ. What are the pros and cons of this place and would you recommend doing this? My daughter and I are for it, its my husband that needs the convincing. Do you think this would be an okay thing to do? She is very outgoing and social and probably wouldn't have a very hard time fitting in, we are just worried about her rational. Thoughts?
01-20-2013, 01:48 PM
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Chandler's a wonderful place with a lot to offer ALL age groups. I've never been to MN, so I can't compare the two for you. I can tell you the climate (read: HEAT) differences will be dramatic.
But I do think it's a bit unusual to be letting a high school freshman make decisions like this. . .
I'd also point out that moving to a place where the entire family knows no one, has no social structure, no friends, etc. can be very lonely. It's hard work to make a life in a new place - for you and your husband, as well as your daughter. If the family is inclined to depression, the loneliness and feelings of disconnection could be a serious problem.
01-20-2013, 06:16 PM
Location: Massachusetts
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Is it just for one year, or possibly longer? If you haven't been here before. What about a visit to look things over and get a feel for the area. I'm doing the one year trial run myself here. I arrived in Sept and I won't be here next winter. Which is fine since it was on a trial basis. I'm newly retired and just a little older. I just turned 63.
I have to agree with jkgourmet. Moving to a far off new place is very difficult. It seems a lot more difficult at our age than at least for me when I was younger. I have lived all over in my life including several countries. This Phoenix area has proven to be the most difficult. I know the reasons at least for me, but I don't know how others adjust to a place like this. It would be an individual experience as to how one adjusts. For me I find I'm use to so much structure where I live. An actual sense of place and community and actual neighbors, that are not coming and going by the month. I'm use to a more mixed society than I am getting here. More than anything I'm not use to being sick from allergies and sinus infections, several in just these 5 months. So thankfully I knew to rent here for this year in case I didn't take to this environment. Seems way to many people move here and immediately buy. I don't recommend that especially in a very transient environment like Phoenix. Just way to unstable.
So I would say to end this. Depending on what you are use to and what is important to you in a place to live. Phoenix may or may not prove appealing to you. I do think when one has no past, no family, no friends. Combine that with the type city and area Metro Phoenix is. Sprawled out with no real sense of community to much of it. Neighbors not interacting the way you might be use to. Or at all. Driving miles on end trying to find places to socialized can take its toll. Its one thing when your 30 but when your our ages, it gets impractical and overwhelming. i'm finding its not a healthy environment to live socially or for me medically either. Being told to attend this church or this club and driving miles to get there has gotten old. I'm not a church goer to begin with, and am finding chuch seems to have a lot of meaning to retirees here. You may or may not feel out of place. I do. So take it slow and really think about what you need in life and what you don't.
Hope this helps. Good Luck.
01-20-2013, 08:37 PM
Location: Phoenix
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My husband and I are in our late fifties, both retired, with a daughter who is currently a freshman in high school. We currently live in a suburb of Minneapolis, MN. Our daughter is strongly pushing the idea of a temporary relocation (1 year) for some adventure and reinvention, etc. At first she was pushing Portland, OR but since our family all has issues with depression and we hear that can be a depressing place to live we decided against. Now she's discovered Chandler, AZ. What are the pros and cons of this place and would you recommend doing this? My daughter and I are for it, its my husband that needs the convincing. Do you think this would be an okay thing to do? She is very outgoing and social and probably wouldn't have a very hard time fitting in, we are just worried about her rational. Thoughts?
I just don't understand how some people make through life. Are these serious questions? Your high school freshman (probably 14 or 15?) is recommending a move for 1 year to AZ, and you want to know from people reading this if that is a good idea?
01-20-2013, 08:47 PM
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Living elsewhere for a year would be very expensive. Plus, why move for a year? Why doesn't your daughter wait until she's graduated high school?
To answer your question, no I wouldn't recommend it.
01-20-2013, 09:13 PM
Location: prescott az
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I agree with the above posters, and would ask you to seriously consider what it is that your daughter doesn't like about her life there, that is precipitating this now. Does she have friends there? Is she doing well in school? What seems to be the problem that she would want to give up her whole life to move someplace strange, for a year?? Most kids in high school have a close circle of peers that they would never want to leave, for love or money. Maybe she needs some counseling to determine her motives for this wish. And maybe you ought to go along with her, to try to understand why you would even consider doing this. JMHO
01-20-2013, 09:17 PM
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I say "what's wrong with a little adventure?" These people are retired and the "freshman" isn't making the decision. That's why the parents are asking for advice on here so they, the parents can decide if it would be a good thing for the family. I see nothing wrong with that at all.
As we grow older, we tend to get set in our ways, get into the rut, doing the same thing, the same way, at the same time. Why not try a little adventure if they can comfortably afford it. Coming from Minnesota, this place certainly would be an adventure. Who are we to say they wouldn't like it.
In my case, I moved from Oregon to here strictly to do something different and it has worked out beyond my wildest dreams for me, thank you very much. I don't know if the OP will like it here or not. Isn't that what an adventure is all about? Even things that don't work out the way we though are, many times, fondly remembered.
I can say this. These people show a lot of thought realizing that Portland Oregon would not be a good choice for them. They are absolutely correct in thinking that they may suffer depression there. 300+ days of cloudy weather. Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) is a real problem when you don't see the sun for that long.
I say "go for it" if it's right for you although a short visit might be in order as well.
Chandler is a wonderful community and Arizona is an absolutely beautiful state.
01-20-2013, 09:29 PM
Location: San Antonio
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At the very most, wait until school/summer vacation, take a trip, just you and your daughter and check the place out for a long weekend or so. If she falls in love with it, look at colleges out there. It sounds like it would do the two of you good, and give your husband a much needed break from the two of you. It's a win/win. I agree with the previous posters in that letting a child make life decisions for two adults is utterly ridiculous.
01-21-2013, 08:41 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Chandler for an adventure? I do not understand. Chandler is your typical suburban community of Safeways, Walmarts and Wendys. She will likely attend a typical suburban high school with the same football games, work a part time job at the same retail outlet and hang out with the same high schoolers that you have in MN. The only difference will be the weather.
Why not a adventure to Australia, Mexico, Europe or even Hawaii?
01-21-2013, 10:10 AM
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Chandler seems a bit obscure. I agree with a change of pace and the valley is a great place for that, but why did she zero in on Chandler?
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People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)