Boring (Phoenix, Mesa, Scottsdale: rental, amusement park, houses)

[Steve-o]

Originally Posted by nikkzone

I prefer 110F with 5% humidity over 90F with 90% humidity any day. Where I grew up it rained a lot and the Summer time was just so sticky and miserable. I used to get headaches all the time. I have been living here in the valley since 1983 and I just love Arizona.

90 degrees and 90% humidity? Doesnt happen, sorry. The most humidity Ive ever seen here (when it does get that hot--which isnt often) when it was 90 degrees was 50%, and it was super sticky. The hotter it gets the lower the humidity. Its just the heat and the humidity mixed that makes it feel uncomfortable. But thank goodness the humidity doesnt stick around for more than a few days, then it gets dry again. I like that because you get some nice tropical days, then some Meditteranean-type weather, followed by some cool crisp days... never too much of one thing.

[twiggy]

Originally Posted by d-iron

Is this the deadest city you've live in or what? Let me know what things there are to do here... PLEASE

Well, there you go. You can argue here for excitement! Really! Either on a forum, (obviously there are no mediators on the AZ forums unless I comment!lol watch, this should bring them around!) Or, in a bar, supermarket, or with a neighbor! Driving is another exciting thing we do here.

Really, you don't move to AZ for things to do honey, you move here for cheaper housing, and no snow. You move to L.A. or NYC, Chicago, Boston, Seatle, those kinds of cities, for things to do. Not to Phoenix. It's great here if you already have a lot to do personally. Not if you need to find excitement some place other than your backyard. Unless, like I said you love to spend a lot of time in your car. It takes a lot of driving here to get to places of interest. It's not in one area, so it takes more time to experience. You can experience one a day, with about 4 or 5 hours in your car in between. Sorry, but it's one large suburb here.
Please, don't tell me to move out of AZ either people, some people can't go as quickly as you all want us too!
P.S. Sorry your thread was so hijacked, I've had that experience myself, it sucks!
Oh, and I understand your post, I don't know why people took it offensively. It was obvious to me you were not bashing AZ, but making conversation about an issue we ALL have in Phoenix. There is not a lot to do here, even if there are people who can entertain themselves with a stick and a rock in their backyard! Good for them, but in reality, it's hard to find something to do here without driving a lot! Not a lot of people have that kind of time. Unless your retired. Then lucky you!

[Arizona Annie]

Originally Posted by twiggy

Well, there you go. You can argue here for excitement! Really! Either on a forum, (obviously there are no mediators on the AZ forums unless I comment!lol watch, this should bring them around!) Or, in a bar, supermarket, or with a neighbor! Driving is another exciting thing we do here.

Really, you don't move to AZ for things to do honey, you move here for cheaper housing, and no snow. You move to L.A. or NYC, Chicago, Boston, Seatle, those kinds of cities, for things to do. Not to Phoenix. It's great here if you already have a lot to do personally. Not if you need to find excitement some place other than your backyard. Unless, like I said you love to spend a lot of time in your car. It takes a lot of driving here to get to places of interest. It's not in one area, so it takes more time to experience. You can experience one a day, with about 4 or 5 hours in your car in between. Sorry, but it's one large suburb here.
Please, don't tell me to move out of AZ either people, some people can't go as quickly as you all want us too!
P.S. Sorry your thread was so hijacked, I've had that experience myself, it sucks!
Oh, and I understand your post, I don't know why people took it offensively. It was obvious to me you were not bashing AZ, but making conversation about an issue we ALL have in Phoenix. There is not a lot to do here, even if there are people who can entertain themselves with a stick and a rock in their backyard! Good for them, but in reality, it's hard to find something to do here without driving a lot! Not a lot of people have that kind of time. Unless your retired. Then lucky you!

Good points Twiggy. In my opinion, you make them a lot. I don't know why the moderators would have issue with you.

In defense of our thread hi-jacking (which we most definitely did), the thread was beginning to resemble its title. Mainly because the OP didn't tell us what kind of activities appeal to him/her, so there wasn't really any way to help without describing every possible option regardless of taste.

I agree with you on these points. You really must be willing to do some driving. We need to get out of the house and explore to find what we enjoy and not stick to our own little communities. Having the time to explore is a necessity here, and it's not a commodity all possess.
AA

[SMG]

Okay...I am going to weigh in on a couple of things.
Thread hijacking- This happens at every single online forum based on any topic for any age group. This is just like a pub with 20 people sitting in a table discussing a topic...it moves around. Probably better deal with it.

Things to do in the Valley-
when I hear people say "There is nothing to do", it reminds of a little kid moping around the house and whining to his mother. What specifically is it that you are seeking? WE have music, nightclubs, water activity, hiking, bowling, swimming, movies, theatre, restaurants and on and on. I have lived all over the country. Some cities have more of one activity and some cities have less of some. But if you are just going to go the "Nothing to do whine", it will be perceived as exactly that...whining. Be more specific about what it is you would like and somebody will step up and tell you where. I am guessing you will walk away with an answer.
I love our city or I would not live here...quite a concept, huh? In the United States, we are free to come and go to the region of our choosing. If someone is miserable someplace, they ought to think about going where they would be more fulfilled...it is very "doable"...

[londonbarcelona]

Originally Posted by SMG

Okay...
Things to do in the Valley-
when I hear people say "There is nothing to do", it reminds of a little kid moping around the house and whining to his mother. What specifically is it that you are seeking? WE have music, nightclubs, water activity, hiking, bowling, swimming, movies, theatre, restaurants and on and on. I have lived all over the country. Some cities have more of one activity and some cities have less of some. But if you are just going to go the "Nothing to do whine", it will be perceived as exactly that...whining. Be more specific about what it is you would like and somebody will step up and tell you where. I am guessing you will walk away with an answer.
I love our city or I would not live here...quite a concept, huh? In the United States, we are free to come and go to the region of our choosing. If someone is miserable someplace, they ought to think about going where they would be more fulfilled...it is very "doable"...

Well, you are right, there is plenty to do. However, most of the activities are not geared toward families or children. (Except the normal bowling, skating, etc.) I've lived here a very long time and love where I live - Scottsdale. However, since the big change in Phoenix, we are moving also. We actually have another home elsewhere already that we get to go to, so we are lucky.
My take on the "there's nothing to do" comment is this:
People who are not from here, are used to the weather dictating what their activities will be. If you are from Cali even, it rains more and there is a beach. In the rest of the country, there are seasons and all the activities that go along with them.
I know I have found it easier to be "less bored" in the cooler climates than here. But that's because it's a way of life thing. Aside from the lack of kid friendly activities, I have found that most people who come here are are lost without the seasons. The diverse seasons gives people their guidence on what to do next!
Take autumn, you do the whole autumn decoration thing, the food thing, the football thing, you rake leaves, jump in them, go for walks looking at the leaves, etc.
In the winter you shop for coats, boots, etc., you bake all day, you go sledding, make snowmen, shovel driveways! In the spring, you take care of the outside of your house, take down the Christmas decorations (HA!) decorate for easter, start planning your garden, in the summer you barbeque, you cut the lawn, you go to festivals, lawn fetes, amusement parks, camping. Etc.
Yes, you can do those things here also - but I think it's the ORDER in which people are used to doing it that is the hardest adjustment for people here to make. Like our summers here - we stay indoors for months at a time, in the east, they stay indoors for months at a time in the winter.
It's hard to change your entire way of thinking and living when you are used to the timing of one thing or another.
That is why I think people are most unhappy when they move here because all of a sudden there is no direction. There is definately a LOT to do here - But no change of season to tell them what to do next.
Does that make sense?

[Lovegun]

Originally Posted by d-iron

I'm am moving early next year to Chicago

I think I might be with you with that one. I moved from the mid west don't want to go back but just to hard to meet people here.

[Arizona Annie]

Originally Posted by londonbarcelona

Well, you are right, there is plenty to do. However, most of the activities are not geared toward families or children. (Except the normal bowling, skating, etc.) I've lived here a very long time and love where I live - Scottsdale. However, since the big change in Phoenix, we are moving also. We actually have another home elsewhere already that we get to go to, so we are lucky.
My take on the "there's nothing to do" comment is this:
People who are not from here, are used to the weather dictating what their activities will be. If you are from Cali even, it rains more and there is a beach. In the rest of the country, there are seasons and all the activities that go along with them.
I know I have found it easier to be "less bored" in the cooler climates than here. But that's because it's a way of life thing. Aside from the lack of kid friendly activities, I have found that most people who come here are are lost without the seasons. The diverse seasons gives people their guidence on what to do next!
Take autumn, you do the whole autumn decoration thing, the food thing, the football thing, you rake leaves, jump in them, go for walks looking at the leaves, etc.
In the winter you shop for coats, boots, etc., you bake all day, you go sledding, make snowmen, shovel driveways! In the spring, you take care of the outside of your house, take down the Christmas decorations (HA!) decorate for easter, start planning your garden, in the summer you barbeque, you cut the lawn, you go to festivals, lawn fetes, amusement parks, camping. Etc.
Yes, you can do those things here also - but I think it's the ORDER in which people are used to doing it that is the hardest adjustment for people here to make. Like our summers here - we stay indoors for months at a time, in the east, they stay indoors for months at a time in the winter.
It's hard to change your entire way of thinking and living when you are used to the timing of one thing or another.
That is why I think people are most unhappy when they move here because all of a sudden there is no direction. No change of season to tell them what to do next.
Does that make sense?

In my opinion, that makes a lot of sense! I never really thought about it before, but it is so true! I have never had trouble finding things to do here, but I was definitely changed by the lack of seasons. There were things I did every year during each season. I guess if I were the type of person who prefers to have people tell me what I should do to fill my time now, I would have been lost without the seasons. I'm an explorer type, I'm lucky. Very good points! Speaking of points, point for you!

[DaveV]

Of COURSE you can't meet people, you drive around in your air-conditioned popemobiles, drive into your remote-controlled attached garages and hide in your climate-controlled cocoons.

[SMG]

the piece about not being able to meet people could be driven by age as well. When we are younger it is always easier. But, when you start getting a bit older people are settled in, have spouses and families and routines and it may make it a bit tougher regardless of where you live...it may not be the fault of the area at all.

[Arizona Annie]

Originally Posted by DaveV

Of COURSE you can't meet people, you drive around in your air-conditioned popemobiles, drive into your remote-controlled attached garages and hide in your climate-controlled cocoons.

Hey, have you been using "Google Earth" or "Streets" to spy on us? You hit the nail on the head during the Summer Monsoon. Although, we do manage to go to climate-controlled bars and restaurants too and events with climate controlled areas. We love our misters (I'm referring to the hoses with many little spouts that spray mist to cool us off - usually attached to the overhangs of buildings, not our spouses. )