LA Times article on the "future of Phoenix" (Tucson: tax, to live)

[stephen431]

Originally Posted by corydon

Yes... those pesky farmers, who needs them, the supermarket has everything we need......

Don't believe these folks who will try to tel you icecream comes from cows, ever seen a cow producing vanilla ice cream????

I still stand by my position that if some cotton & citrus farmers have to move, Phoenix will survive.

[corydon]

Sure, and if you move some cotton and citrus farmers wil survive, what sounds better to me, I need Tshirts and fruit.
Do you know how many dairys are in AZ?

[bgray9]

Originally Posted by stephen431

I still stand by my position that if some cotton & citrus farmers have to move, Phoenix will survive.

Most people don't understand that even as big as Phoenix has become, the vast majority of water consumption in Arizona is still for agriculture. And a lot of that consumption is not all that efficient. If agriculture became more water efficient, it'd reduce water consumption in this state significantly.

[stephen431]

Originally Posted by bgray9

Most people don't understand that even as big as Phoenix has become, the vast majority of water consumption in Arizona is still for agriculture. And a lot of that consumption is not all that efficient. If agriculture became more water efficient, it'd reduce water consumption in this state significantly.

Exactly. That's the reason irrigation for crops are the first in line for water restriction.

It's not as though they're completely cut off. They're just reduced and have to reduce the area for their planting by the same margin, or get more efficient irrigation systems, or change to hardier crops, or any number of different adjustments. There are several farms that do water banking, so they'll have time to make adjustments.

Originally Posted by corydon

Sure, and if you move some cotton and citrus farmers wil survive, what sounds better to me, I need Tshirts and fruit.
Do you know how many dairys are in AZ?

It'll be okay. Shhh. Just relax. Calm down. Shhh. It'll be okay.

[corydon]

I am OK, seems te me you have a problem, or at least can't see reality.
Without farmers you wil die, plain and simple.

What have you done at your house to reduce water consumption?

Typical, when logic is knocking at the door, they get al crazy, bu have no good answers.....

[corydon]

Originally Posted by bgray9

Most people don't understand that even as big as Phoenix has become, the vast majority of water consumption in Arizona is still for agriculture. And a lot of that consumption is not all that efficient. If agriculture became more water efficient, it'd reduce water consumption in this state significantly.

I can guarantee you farmers are very efficient, they don't get al that stuff for free. Drip irrigation is common.
Get out and see for yourself, the info in your local newspaper has an agenda....

[cacto]

Originally Posted by corydon

I am OK, seems te me you have a problem, or at least can't see reality.
Without farmers you wil die, plain and simple.

What have you done at your house to reduce water consumption?

Typical, when logic is knocking at the door, they get al crazy, bu have no good answers.....

I value farms and farmers but with a few less farmers in Maricopa County I don't think anyone will die.

[corydon]

The same can be said of golf courses, they use an awfull lot of water and are not productive.

What I really want to say, if you try to get rid of one farm, you open the door to a dangerous world.....
Just quit eating if you don't like farms, that is making a statement.

I delivered feed to dairys in AZ, most are around Phoenix.
For many years they just sat there by themself, in the middle of nowhere. Than the houses came, often right across the road, with owners who went straight to court, suiing the farmer.....
Farmers have more money than the average person.....

And what when you get rid of the farms, what's next? Beverage makers use a lot of water, so does the food industrie..... paper manufacters, hotels as in washing al the linnens everyday, everybody uses water.
Bet you those who cry the loudest have a swimming pool...

The environmental lobby aka the Dems, has killed so many industries, now all you hear, we wil bring jobs.. sure.

[cacto]

Originally Posted by corydon

The same can be said of golf courses, they use an awfull lot of water and are not productive.

What I really want to say, if you try to get rid of one farm, you open the door to a dangerous world.....
Just quit eating if you don't like farms, that is making a statement.

I delivered feed to dairys in AZ, most are around Phoenix.
For many years they just sat there by themself, in the middle of nowhere. Than the houses came, often right across the road, with owners who went straight to court, suiing the farmer.....
Farmers have more money than the average person.....

And what when you get rid of the farms, what's next? Beverage makers use a lot of water, so does the food industrie..... paper manufacters, hotels as in washing al the linnens everyday, everybody uses water.
Bet you those who cry the loudest have a swimming pool...

The environmental lobby aka the Dems, has killed so many industries, now all you hear, we wil bring jobs.. sure.

Best situation would be LA mandating water saving measures. PHX and Tucson have done more than most cities in this country.

[phoenixmike11]

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