When will Phoenix surpass Houston as the 4th largest city? (best cities, homeowners insurance)

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by jd433

Boy for never having gone there this guy sure does know how to sum up Phoenix. This is a great comparison. GOOD JOB!!!
I do think that he was a little overboard however to be fair. But yes Phoenix is well compared as a larger version of Fresno or maybe even a little tinge of El Paso you know a big dry dusty flavorless giant suburb of tile rooftops with rocks and dirt. A stucco and concrete jungle. A large portion of it run down and riddled with illegals. A cultureless expanse of transplants with no sense of community. A sprawling generic cookie cutter village of endless redundance. All you see is the same shopping center and master planned community over and over again. Its a colorless empty ghost town with very little to do at all. It's a work and go home type of place that is monotonous and grinding. It's a lifeless pointless meaningless nowhere land. This place was better off being left as a cotton field. They had no business breaking the ground in order to put up their featureless architectually void dull drab developements sprawling for ridiculous distances in all directions. Phoenix is Bedroom Community dependant and freeway lacking. It reeks of John F. Longs slums. It is one big giant FOR SALE SIGN! wich is really an SOS flag for all the homes sinking into foreclosure and cluttering the landscape with abandoned houses over ran with weeds and broken windows. Phoenix has no right trying to compare itself to such a city as Houston which is a "World Class City"

This is one of those opinion only, classless post. Here are pictures of what phoenix looks like. You are describing more of the new suburbs which many love and are not drab. There are so many links, but here is just a sample.
Here are some links to get a look at phoenix:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...you-haven.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...hotos-time.htm
Working in downtown Phoenix? Curious about moving to downtown? Look here...
Phoenix Arizona Photos
downtown phx spl 1-1 pictures from cityscapes photos on webshots

IMG_0005 copy pictures from cityscapes photos on webshots

And a link to things happening in the northend and mostly Roosevelt Area of downtown:

Life in Downtown Phoenix: Downtown in Pictures: June 2007

Much more going on outside of these projects and areas, but this is my neighborhood. All within blocks of each other. They are from last year. Some project have been completed and new towers are underconstruction, south of these.

[sweetclimber]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

This is one of those opinion only, classless post. Here are pictures of what phoenix looks like. You are describing more of the new suburbs which many love and are not drab. There are so many links, but here is just a sample.
Here are some links to get a look at phoenix:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...you-haven.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...hotos-time.htm
Working in downtown Phoenix? Curious about moving to downtown? Look here...
Phoenix Arizona Photos
downtown phx spl 1-1 pictures from cityscapes photos on webshots

IMG_0005 copy pictures from cityscapes photos on webshots

And a link to things happening in the northend and mostly Roosevelt Area of downtown:

Life in Downtown Phoenix: Downtown in Pictures: June 2007

Much more going on outside of these projects and areas, but this is my neighborhood. All within blocks of each other. They are from last year. Some project have been completed and new towers are underconstruction, south of these.

You know, this is all well and good, but in no way has anyone on the Phoenix side shown that phoenix will ever get close to passing Houston which is the thread question!

[fcorrales80]

We have, what I stated earlier:

"If you look at the percentage stated in my post, you will see that in 1950 Phoenix metro had 39.6% of the population of Houston metro and that gap has closed to 75.9%. So only 24.1% to go and Phoenix will surpass Houston's population. You saying that: "By your own admission Houston is adding more people than Phoenix and if it continues at the same numerical rate Phoenix will never catch up," is plain wrong as I actually said the exact opposite. The population counts are estimates from the Census Bereau."

According to the numbers, each year Phoenix closed the gap by adding a net gain of 18,822 over Houston between 2005-2007. A net gain of 37,644 in those two years.

Given that Phoenix has gone, and will go through large increase in population that surpass 20,000 in net gains over Houston (since 1950), estimates show that Phoenix will overtake Houston in 15-33 years. 15 years if the same pattern from 1950 occurs, and at the latest 33 years of the slowest rate of growth.

[jd433]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

We have, what I stated earlier:

"If you look at the percentage stated in my post, you will see that in 1950 Phoenix metro had 39.6% of the population of Houston metro and that gap has closed to 75.9%. So only 24.1% to go and Phoenix will surpass Houston's population. You saying that: "By your own admission Houston is adding more people than Phoenix and if it continues at the same numerical rate Phoenix will never catch up," is plain wrong as I actually said the exact opposite. The population counts are estimates from the Census Bereau."

According to the numbers, each year Phoenix closed the gap by adding a net gain of 18,822 over Houston between 2005-2007. A net gain of 37,644 in those two years.

Given that Phoenix has gone, and will go through large increase in population that surpass 20,000 in net gains over Houston (since 1950), estimates show that Phoenix will overtake Houston in 15-33 years. 15 years if the same pattern from 1950 occurs, and at the latest 33 years of the slowest rate of growth.

These are always referring to percentages. But Numeruically speaking Houston has added more people than Phoenix since 1950. In order for Phoenix to pass Houston it needs to gain more people than Houston NUMERICALLY not percentage wise. If they both add 100,000 people Phoenix will catch up percentage wise but not NUMERICALLY.

[TheseGoTo11]

Originally Posted by jd433

These are always referring to percentages. But Numeruically speaking Houston has added more people than Phoenix since 1950. In order for Phoenix to pass Houston it needs to gain more people than Houston NUMERICALLY not percentage wise. If they both add 100,000 people Phoenix will catch up percentage wise but not NUMERICALLY.

But you can chart Houston's growth against the price of oil, Phoenix never had a period of negative net migration domestically like Houston did in the 90s.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by jd433

These are always referring to percentages. But Numeruically speaking Houston has added more people than Phoenix since 1950. In order for Phoenix to pass Houston it needs to gain more people than Houston NUMERICALLY not percentage wise. If they both add 100,000 people Phoenix will catch up percentage wise but not NUMERICALLY.

Wow, you aren't reading things carefully are you. Here, read again:

"According to the numbers, each year Phoenix closed the gap by adding a net gain of 18,822 over Houston between 2005-2007. A net gain of 37,644 in those two years.

Given that Phoenix has gone, and will go through large increase in population that surpass 20,000 in net gains over Houston (since 1950), estimates show that Phoenix will overtake Houston in 15-33 years. 15 years if the same pattern from 1950 occurs, and at the latest 33 years of the slowest rate of growth."

What this means is that Phoenix adds more people to its total NUMERICALLY each year than does Houston, which allows it to grow faster and more quickly; giving Phoenix percentages higher than Houston while actually physically adding more numbers as well.

[theSUBlime]

When Hell (AKA Phoenix) freezes over.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by theSUBlime

When Hell (AKA Phoenix) freezes over.

It did this winter (a few times).

[theSUBlime]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

It did this winter (a few times).

HIGH-larious man. You are on something! This is coming from the guy who is comparing Phoenix to Chicago!

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by theSUBlime

HIGH-larious man. You are on something! This is coming from the guy who is comparing Phoenix to Chicago!

Comparing Phoenix's gay scene and nightlife to Chicago's. Not population or amount of buildings.