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Unread 11-12-2007, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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more foreclosures, more poverty and crime, and more and more debt.
All byproducts of a low wage economy. The scariest parts is - where there is no real middle class - eventually, there will be no democracy.

 
Unread 11-12-2007, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Tucson
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The scariest parts is - where there is no real middle class - eventually, there will be no democracy.
Unfortunately, this trend is not meant to be Phoenix- or AZ-specific.
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:29 AM
 
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What the H--- are you talking about and to whom?
Use the scroll functions. You also may need a refresher as to how to use this site. If I am responding to someone's posting, and you don't quite get it, as perhaps not all the info was posted in the reply-go back to the original posting to get all that info.
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:32 AM
 
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There was nothing linked to your post, DA
Oh contrer mon frer DA!

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Unread 12-01-2007, 03:37 AM
 
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It's not that we don't want to help or care for others. We have generations of people on welfare in this country, not to mention illegals. I think people need to put down the bottle,the crack pipe stop having kids and get to work. Then we can concentrate on the people that truly need help. God helps those that help themselves.
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PEOPLE HELP THOSE THAT HELP THEMSELVES AND OTHERS. OTHERS HELP THOSE PEOPLE IN RETURN. Real simple stuff here folks.

Last edited by sablebaby; 12-01-2007 at 06:55 PM..
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:39 AM
 
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Blush, blush thank you!

And I totally agree with what you have written. A good example of how unions benefited the working class is how forming a union helped my grandfather. Before his union was formed, he rarely had a day off, no vacation time, and worked long hours.

After his union was formed, he had vacation time and regular work hours. I don't have a problem with his union (back in the early 1900s) as it helped him gain a better life. Most current unions do not represent their members and are far removed from what their original intent which is why I support a right to work state. No one should be forced to join a union in order to work, I'm sure my grandfather would agree.

LF
I wondered how you felt as a "Goldwater Republican" with what is going on with the current Republicans? They are a different breed entirely. Pros? Cons? (Just out of curiosity)
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:40 AM
 
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It's the breakdown of the family, absent parents, gangster rapp is glorified, MTV. Have you seen these movies and TV shows marketed to our kids? You are talking about bringing jobs back home and that will solve the drug problem? That's a good one! These generations of families on welfare never had jobs to begin with. Don't get me started.
NEWSFLASH:

MY FRIEND IS ON WELFARE. SHE WORKS FULL TIME TOO. YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT SO MANY THINGS. PLEASE DO NOT JUST TAKE REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS AS TRUTH.
Thanks.
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:43 AM
 
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And I'm not going to buy any toys for my son that were made in China!! Factories that put lead in their paint made a poor choice. Maybe more people will buy from american toy factories now.
Is there such a thing? I haven't heard of an American toy factory. I thought all American toys were imported in some way, shape or form. I have nieces and nephews to buy for and don't know what to get yet.
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Is there such a thing? I haven't heard of an American toy factory. I thought all American toys were imported in some way, shape or form. I have nieces and nephews to buy for and don't know what to get yet.
I haven't done a lot of research on the subject, but I have heard that you can get american made toys online if you look.
 
Unread 12-01-2007, 03:51 AM
 
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How about them working in a restaurant at the same time they are getting an education to get a better job? How about them not having more kids till they can afford them? How about them not selling their food stamps to buy drugs. Not that's a step in the right direction.
I really want you to start quoting your sources from now on. You are saying things that sound like things said on Fox "News" or Limbaugh or some other "think tank". Mind citing your sources from now on? For example, are you suggesting that people do not work at a restaurant and go to school? Because 80% or higher of people that work in restaurants also go to school. (I have worked in the business for 2 decades). Then they move onto a better job once they finish school. As far as the not having kids til they can afford them statement. Let me ask you this: should people that have accidental pregnancies start having more abortions? We all agree that birth control or abstaining from sex is best, but it doesn't always occur. So, when the accident happens, you are for abortions en masse then to reduce welfare spending?
How many people do you know of that sell their food stamps for drug money?
Do you have some kind of study or figures to back that statement up?

A step in the right direction is knowing what you are talking about as FACTS. Things that have credible resources to back up what you say. Everytime I read one of your postings here, it feels like Bill O'Reiley, Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck or the actual Republican talking points have been copied word for word. If you aren't even interested in having an original thought, at least provide proof of your "facts."
Thanks and have a nice day.
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