U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 1.5 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Jump to a detailed profile or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Business Search - 14 Million verified businesses
Search for:  near: 
 
 
Old 07-15-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
17,573 posts, read 20,884,023 times
Reputation: 9208

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by HX_Guy View Post
Didn't know Sissoo had these problems, thanks for the heads up, as it was a tree I was considering for the new house. Guess not anymore.
A nice tree you might consider for your new house is the southern live oak. I have one and I neglected it for years - no water - but it was still alive. So last year I pruned the dead branches and put it on the irrigation and it is just gorgeous now. It has very dark evergreen leaves, makes good shade and does not seem to litter very much. It does sucker but the suckers are all near the base and easy to keep down. I kind of wish I had planted one instead of my sissoo, but I like that too and it grows so very fast compared to the oak. My sissoo is 20 feet high and as wide in about 3-4 years.
Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-15-2013, 12:52 PM
 
8,165 posts, read 9,837,615 times
Reputation: 5519
Good information as I too really liked the shade the trees put out

Anyone have any experience with Chinese Elm?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 12:57 PM
 
3,365 posts, read 6,303,706 times
Reputation: 1954
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ponderosa View Post
A nice tree you might consider for your new house is the southern live oak. I have one and I neglected it for years - no water - but it was still alive. So last year I pruned the dead branches and put it on the irrigation and it is just gorgeous now. It has very dark evergreen leaves, makes good shade and does not seem to litter very much. It does sucker but the suckers are all near the base and easy to keep down. I kind of wish I had planted one instead of my sissoo, but I like that too and it grows so very fast compared to the oak. My sissoo is 20 feet high and as wide in about 3-4 years.
I know those are popular but I personally don't like how dark the leaves are, they are too dark green in my opinion. My favorite is still the Fan Tex Ash.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 01:09 PM
 
Location: East valley
3,074 posts, read 3,488,670 times
Reputation: 4263
OP, one of my sissoo trees is about 8 years old and gets no water at all. And it does just fine. The other Sissoo is in the middle of grass and only gets "sprinkled" with the grass and is fine also. Maybe you could try shutting off the water to the tree and see what happens?
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 02:22 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
3,003 posts, read 3,008,388 times
Reputation: 2703
We have a bunch of live oak in our neighborhood and a couple things I've noticed is that they are very slow growing and don't look much larger than when they were put in 5 years ago. They all still have their stakes holding them up against the wind.

Also, they drop a ton of acorns at certain times of the year. The sidewalks are covered in acorns and I'd not want that in my yard.

I had two Chinese Elm's put in my front yard when we moved in. One of them was blown over and killed in a windstorm (a really bad storm) and the other one is doing great. Only problem is that they lose all their leaves once a year so you'll have the mess to deal with and a bare tree for the winter.

We replaced the Chinese Elm that blew over with a Brazilian Pepper tree and so far so good, it doesn't lose any leaves and is growing great. Not very old yet so can't comment on the long term of it.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 02:51 PM
 
3,365 posts, read 6,303,706 times
Reputation: 1954
All trees lose their leaves, it's just a matter of if they lose them all at once or slowly throughout the year. We had a Ficus at the old house and there was always a mess under the tree...not a big mess, but it would accumulate throughout the week until the landscapers came, definitely noticeable. I actually prefer a deciduous tree now, it loses all it's leaves in a week or two and then it's clean the rest of the year.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
3,003 posts, read 3,008,388 times
Reputation: 2703
So far our Brazilian pepper tree hasn't lost any leaves, not quite a year since planting it so maybe it will at some point but it kept them all winter and there are never any leaves under it.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
17,573 posts, read 20,884,023 times
Reputation: 9208
Quote:
Originally Posted by HX_Guy View Post
All trees lose their leaves, it's just a matter of if they lose them all at once or slowly throughout the year. We had a Ficus at the old house and there was always a mess under the tree...not a big mess, but it would accumulate throughout the week until the landscapers came, definitely noticeable. I actually prefer a deciduous tree now, it loses all it's leaves in a week or two and then it's clean the rest of the year.
I have a china berry tree that was here when I moved in. The realtor told me how awful it was and suggested I cut it down. I did not and it is like what you describe. All the leaves come down in a week. The hard berries fall off in spring. Other than that it is a very clean tree with great shade. It struggles though in June and gets burned. I saw a huge one once down in Tombstone. The heat here just seems to limit mine. In the old neighborhoods you also see a really nice deciduous shade tree that most HOAs ban - the mulberry. My MIL had a really huge one in her yard in Maryvale.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 03:59 PM
 
3,365 posts, read 6,303,706 times
Reputation: 1954
Love Mulberry trees...used to eat the berries when I was a kid back in Romania and I've even gone down on Central Ave a couple times and picked some off the trees that are long the road, yummy stuff.
Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-15-2013, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...
28,510 posts, read 21,629,733 times
Reputation: 76848
Male mulberry trees have been banned by the City of Phoenix and other areas due to their high pollen count. They are also considered as high water users and very messy.
Female mulberry trees drop a lot of fruit and are considered very messy. Very few, if any, Nurseries sell these trees anymore in AZ. Have you ever seen any of these trees in the older residential sections where they are butcher pruned every year and all those unsightly knots.
All trees have their plusses and minuses. It's a matter of what you like and what is allowed that you make a personal decision on. Everyone has a different opinion on their trees. But before you buy and plant any be sure to look up the characteristics and maintenance of the tree and see if it fits your needs.
Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


 
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2011 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $84,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Arizona > Phoenix area

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2014, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 - Top