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Old 11-13-2013, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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The Republic published some interesting statistics today. Shows the percentage of students who attended public high schools that ended up graduating from 4 year institutions, along with their ranking among the 400 schools listed. This is one more piece of data to consider when assessing how good a school is. I know that people tend to focus on elementary schools, but this is good data that should be looked at as well.

The highest large public high schools (Phoenix area) in the list are Chaparral (Scottsdale USD, 4th at 55.2%) and Desert Mountain (Scottsdale USD, 6th at 53.6%). Highest local charters are Tempe Preparatory Academy (2nd at 71.1%) and Arizona School For The Arts (7th at 52.9%).

People are quick to point out how good the schools are in certain areas but is a bit surprising to see some of the results. Queen Creek is 168th at 9.1% while Central (Phoenix Union HSD) is 129th at 12.8%, for example. I would not have guessed that. When looking at rankings note that numbers 287-400 are 0%.

One issue with the stats is that it looks at 2005-6 graduates to give enough time to see if people finished college. If a school has improved over the last few years the statistics would not reflect that.

College graduation rates for Arizona high schools
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Old 11-13-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Very interesting article. I was somewhat disappointed to see the numbers so low (less than 50% statewide). It just shows that not enough emphasis is placed on preparing our students for college. Many school districts have began programs in recent years to help students get prepared for life after high school. Hopefully, those numbers will come up in a few years.
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Old 11-15-2013, 05:37 AM
 
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Very interesting article. I was somewhat disappointed to see the numbers so low (less than 50% statewide). It just shows that not enough emphasis is placed on preparing our students for college. Many school districts have began programs in recent years to help students get prepared for life after high school. Hopefully, those numbers will come up in a few years.
IMHO, it's the parents job to emphasis the importance of college. Not to simply attend college but to excel in the classroom. As in kick butt in school. Make home work a priority while in grade school and build their self-esteem so they have the confidence to continue to srive to do their very best. Therefore expect a very high correlation to kids attending college where their parents also attended college and that were heavily involved in K through 12. All things being equal, those are the kids that are best prepared. To simply attend and finish college in 2013 isn't really an accomplishment. About 1/2 come out in debt and under employed.

That said, there are a lot of students that attend college who are wasting their time. They don't work hard or are not smart enough. So college isn't for everyone and should not be viewed as simply a piece of paper. Many students will do much better developing their skills in the trades.

But I do think the graduation rate is smart to look at as you are picking your kids future friends. It has a lot less reflection on the quality of the schools (a huge misnomer) and more to do with the quality of your neighbors. Putting it another way, highly rated schools have a concentration of more educated parents. Their is normally a path for the motivated families to get a top notch education (so long as the school isn't dragged down by the majority of the students coasting and causing problems) in an "average" district.
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Old 11-15-2013, 10:33 PM
 
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IMHO, it's the parents job to emphasis the importance of college. Not to simply attend college but to excel in the classroom. As in kick butt in school. Make home work a priority while in grade school and build their self-esteem so they have the confidence to continue to srive to do their very best. Therefore expect a very high correlation to kids attending college where their parents also attended college and that were heavily involved in K through 12. All things being equal, those are the kids that are best prepared. To simply attend and finish college in 2013 isn't really an accomplishment. About 1/2 come out in debt and under employed.

That said, there are a lot of students that attend college who are wasting their time. They don't work hard or are not smart enough. So college isn't for everyone and should not be viewed as simply a piece of paper. Many students will do much better developing their skills in the trades.

But I do think the graduation rate is smart to look at as you are picking your kids future friends. It has a lot less reflection on the quality of the schools (a huge misnomer) and more to do with the quality of your neighbors. Putting it another way, highly rated schools have a concentration of more educated parents. Their is normally a path for the motivated families to get a top notch education (so long as the school isn't dragged down by the majority of the students coasting and causing problems) in an "average" district.
Wow.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:54 AM
 
Location: out standing in my field
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You will find a direct correlation between parent involvement and expectations and success in high school and beyond. This is not surprising and I doubt much different than in many other states.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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Very interesting article. I was somewhat disappointed to see the numbers so low (less than 50% statewide). It just shows that not enough emphasis is placed on preparing our students for college. Many school districts have began programs in recent years to help students get prepared for life after high school. Hopefully, those numbers will come up in a few years.
That made me curious to see how Arizona as a state compares:

New State-by-State College Attainment Numbers Show Progress Toward 2020 Goal | U.S. Department of Education
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Our high school is ranked #70 and the graduated from 4year post-secondary institution is 21.1%. I would have guessed the percentage was much higher as I don't personally know anyone that doesn't go to college from this school. Guess it simply demonstrates that I know few people
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Old 11-16-2013, 12:58 PM
 
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Nogales is ranked higher than Moon Valley.
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