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Old 12-16-2013, 02:38 PM
 
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Glendale is hosting the SuperBowl in 2015 and was just awarded the 2016 National college football championship game. Good news for the valley. It seems we are getting some of our mojo back.
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:42 PM
 
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That is good news.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:21 PM
 
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We have that "mojo" because of the Fiesta Bowl and the rotation that goes with the new playoff system. It will be fun, though!
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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We have that "mojo" because of the Fiesta Bowl and the rotation that goes with the new playoff system. It will be fun, though!
No, there is no fixed rotation anymore. The big game goes out on a bidding process. I was afraid it would be in Texas every year. And, just a couple years ago the Fiesta Bowl was in danger of disappearing and now they are back on top. The weather and UOP probably has something to do with that, but plenty of credit goes to civic and business leaders for mopping up the damage of the scandal and all the bad press from SB1070.
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Old 12-16-2013, 03:40 PM
 
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No, there is no fixed rotation anymore. The big game goes out on a bidding process. I was afraid it would be in Texas every year. And, just a couple years ago the Fiesta Bowl was in danger of disappearing and now they are back on top. The weather and UOP probably has something to do with that, but plenty of credit goes to civic and business leaders for mopping up the damage of the scandal and all the bad press from SB1070.

You're right. The championship is a bid, while the preceding playoff games are in a rotation which includes the Fiesta Bowl. (I don't think the Fiesta Bowl was ever in real danger of disappearing, although its reputation certainly took a hit.) We've hosted the BCS Championship before, so that helped us in the bid, I'm sure. Good news all around.

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Old 12-16-2013, 03:59 PM
 
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You're right. The championship is a bid, while the preceding playoff games are in a rotation which includes the Fiesta Bowl. (I don't think the Fiesta Bowl was ever in real danger of disappearing, although its reputation certainly took a hit.) We've hosted the BCS Championship before, so that helped us in the bid, I'm sure. Good news all around.

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I know that you remember back in 2005 when Phoenix was riding high. We were the fastest growing area, producing more jobs than anywhere else in the country. One had a little pride and little swagger when saying he came from Phoenix. Then it hit the fan. The recession came. We became the poster child of the housing collapse. SB1070 resulted in lost convention business and millions in tourist spending and the press made us look like a bunch of redneck bigots to much the world. We lost jobs and people along with it for the first time in many years. We couldn't sell or refi our houses. The guy who ran the Fiesta Bowl was tried, convicted and will be sentenced next month for crimes surrounding that endeavor. It was a very rough patch for this city. But we have seen the tide turn and these high profile games are an indication of that. These games are a feather in our cap and a tribute to our return to national prominence in a positive way. That is what I meant by getting our "mojo" back. It's about more than the games themselves.
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Old 12-16-2013, 06:22 PM
 
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I know that you remember back in 2005 when Phoenix was riding high. We were the fastest growing area, producing more jobs than anywhere else in the country. One had a little pride and little swagger when saying he came from Phoenix. Then it hit the fan. The recession came. We became the poster child of the housing collapse. SB1070 resulted in lost convention business and millions in tourist spending and the press made us look like a bunch of redneck bigots to much the world. We lost jobs and people along with it for the first time in many years. We couldn't sell or refi our houses. The guy who ran the Fiesta Bowl was tried, convicted and will be sentenced next month for crimes surrounding that endeavor. It was a very rough patch for this city. But we have seen the tide turn and these high profile games are an indication of that. These games are a feather in our cap and a tribute to our return to national prominence in a positive way. That is what I meant by getting our "mojo" back. It's about more than the games themselves.
I don't disagree with you that it's a very good thing for the city.
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Old 12-16-2013, 10:46 PM
 
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Glendale is hosting the SuperBowl in 2015 and was just awarded the 2016 National college football championship game. Good news for the valley. It seems we are getting some of our mojo back.
Good news about the Super Bowl and college championship bowl game, yes, but it's still a bad location. Sorry, but unless there is a huge building spree in the next year around Westgate, I won't feel very proud showcasing the UOP Stadium with these major sporting events against a backdrop of cotton fields and large swaths of undeveloped vacant land. Part of the pride and "mojo" comes with showing off the big city aspect of Phoenix ... showing the nation and the world that we are more than just mountains, desert, and sunshine. The Westgate location simply does not accomplish that.
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:34 AM
 
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Good news about the Super Bowl and college championship bowl game, yes, but it's still a bad location. Sorry, but unless there is a huge building spree in the next year around Westgate, I won't feel very proud showcasing the UOP Stadium with these major sporting events against a backdrop of cotton fields and large swaths of undeveloped vacant land. Part of the pride and "mojo" comes with showing off the big city aspect of Phoenix ... showing the nation and the world that we are more than just mountains, desert, and sunshine. The Westgate location simply does not accomplish that.
I see where you're coming from. I mean Westgate is good for what it is and it will continue to expand and become more vibrant. The new outlet mall for instance was a nice addition. But for people coming out of town for the Superbowl and who would like to stay in one area and not travel much would get bored quickly in the Westgate area. I remember back in 08 when we hosted the Superbowl a lot of people ventured out to places like Old Town and Mill Ave and even downtown Phoenix to hang out which all are a good distance from the Westgate area. Like I said it's going to take time but the Westgate area will get more concentrated nightlife and amenities in time so you don't have to be embarrassed of the cotton fields backdrop haha
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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there really is no need to spend the entire time around the stadium .... who does such a thing anyhow?

if you're coming to Phoenix for any event at any location and thinking you're going to maximize your trip by staying in any single location then you are going to severely limit yourself ........ it's Phoenix - it's spread out

Glendale has a lot more going for it than Miami Gardens - yet we never hear such complaints about a Miami event

A good number of stadiums are situated the same way where they are tucked away a little bit .... not that big of a deal, especially considering how easy it is to get to and get in/out of
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