Is phoenix the next LA??? (transplants, construction, landlord)

[ropper111]

Is Phoenix the next LA, as far as the growth in that area? Thank you

[caryberry]

Originally Posted by ropper111

Is Phoenix the next LA, as far as the growth in that area? Thank you

Growth in what "area" specifically?

[ropper111]

sprawl and also, they seem like the LA type...just several hours drive away. In other words, the other LA.

[DetroitN8V]

Originally Posted by ropper111

sprawl and also, they seem like the LA type...just several hours drive away. In other words, the other LA.

What are you talkin about? Who seems like the "LA type"? What does that even mean?

[Bondurant]

Phoenix has been growing steadily since the post WWII years. There's a lot of sprawl as compared to metropolis type core like you will find in NYC, Chicago or Philly. I guess that is what you mean.

[Potential_Landlord]

Phoenix and LA are very different. In Phoenix, traffic moves while in LA traffic is mostly at a stand-still.

[new2colo]

No. Phoenix and LA are really nothing alike growthwise. Phoenix is largely a Post World World 2 city that has grown substantially off of transplanted retirees from colder states, younger families from colder states, and immigrants from south of the border. Los Angeles has been a substantial city since the late 1800s, growing quickly because of railroad construction and oil exploration. In the 20th Century, growth was based heavily on people relocating for the entertainment industry and waves of immigrants from Asia, Latin America, and other parts of the world. LA is not a heavy retirement destination and most transplants are not there to escape Midwestern winters.

The only place in the LA area that resembles Phoenix growthwise is the Inland Empire (Riverside, San Bernardino, Moreno Valley, San Jacinto). The LA area is just much more mature and diverse in its economy, has exponentially more higher education opportunities, and has a completely different set of amenities than Phoenix. It's apples and oranges, really.

[corydon]

Originally Posted by Potential_Landlord

Phoenix and LA are very different. In Phoenix, traffic moves while in LA traffic is mostly at a stand-still.

Run regulary around LA, and while traffic might stand still at one moment, the next minute it is flying again.
It is busy.....

The economie is many times larger in LA, and their is only one place where you can built a harbour/terminals....

[azdr0710]

though the fear that "Phoenix will become LA" has been around for decades, they are actually very different from each other in many ways and never will compare....

for one thing, Phoenicians can learn a thing or three from LA drivers, believe it or not....the notorious freeways and heavy traffic of LA have actually forced drivers in LA to a certain mild level of aggressiveness, so everybody knows the score and acts accordingly....traffic flows in an orderly way (except for the rare and obvious solo hotshot), drivers respect each other, stop at red lights, wait for pedestrians (generally).....major LA freeway construction was already completed by the early 1990s with the completion of the Century Freeway I-105 E of LAX and the entire system is a model of efficiency, considering the enormous number of cars on the road

I believe Phx drivers are much derided because of a wide variety of driving habits brought here from other places by the highly transient population.....traffic here isn't tough enough to require drivers to adhere to a "standard" driving style

[Ponderosa]

Originally Posted by new2colo

No. Phoenix and LA are really nothing alike growthwise. Phoenix is largely a Post World World 2 city that has grown substantially off of transplanted retirees from colder states, younger families from colder states, and immigrants from south of the border. Los Angeles has been a substantial city since the late 1800s, growing quickly because of railroad construction and oil exploration. In the 20th Century, growth was based heavily on people relocating for the entertainment industry and waves of immigrants from Asia, Latin America, and other parts of the world. LA is not a heavy retirement destination and most transplants are not there to escape Midwestern winters.

The only place in the LA area that resembles Phoenix growthwise is the Inland Empire (Riverside, San Bernardino, Moreno Valley, San Jacinto). The LA area is just much more mature and diverse in its economy, has exponentially more higher education opportunities, and has a completely different set of amenities than Phoenix. It's apples and oranges, really.

The largest group of residents from other places to Arizona come from California - not Illinois or some state in the midwest. While Phoenix is a retirement destination the notion that it is overrun by geezers is a myth. Arizona is one of the "youngest" states in the country. I doubt Phoenix is the next LA, whatever that means. When people say "LA" I think most of them mean the megalopolis of southern California. In that regard, Phoenix is more LA-like than any other city in the US. The growth and sprawl and the lack of anything remotely resembling an eastern city downtown is a dead giveaway.