11-10-2014, 11:58 AM
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Those are just small burgers and way too gourmet. Guacamole on a slider is beyond sacrilege. The key to a real deal slider is the onions cooked on the flat top with the burger. Soft bun, greasy beef cooked on onions and cheese. Maybe pickles and mustard.
Wow. That just killed my appetite!
Interesting topic!
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11-10-2014, 04:23 PM
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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When I was a child in Livonia in the early 60's, I remember a place at 8 Mile and Grand River that had sliders. I swear that it was called Bray's, not Brayz. To confuse things more, I looked on Google Maps and see that there is a White Castle there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl...f627ae7b3f3f2d
11-10-2014, 05:03 PM
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When I was a child in Livonia in the early 60's, I remember a place at 8 Mile and Grand River that had sliders. I swear that it was called Bray's, not Brayz. To confuse things more, I looked on Google Maps and see that there is a White Castle there now.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cl...f627ae7b3f3f2d
Was it Bates'? We used to go to one at 9 and Middlebelt.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/bates-hambur...rmington-hills
11-10-2014, 07:13 PM
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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Pretty sure about Bray's. I just did a little research and apparently Brayz and Bray's have a common lineage with different family members going in their own directions. There turns out to be a Bray's in Westland. The original was in Garden City and they were once all over the place.
11-12-2014, 08:46 AM
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Pretty sure about Bray's. I just did a little research and apparently Brayz and Bray's have a common lineage with different family members going in their own directions. There turns out to be a Bray's in Westland. The original was in Garden City and they were once all over the place.
That's absolutely correct. The Brayz was the "offshoot" of sorts, connected by family but not in a business sense.
I should apologize for the use of "true" in reference to the sliders...I originally started the post as "True Detroit style sliders", but then it occurred to me that it's likely not a Detroit specific creation, and didn't want to limit myself to only familiar with Detroit burgers. Apparently I didn't edit well enough, lol.
DetroitN8V has it though - what I'm searching for isn't just the mini burger, which a lot of people confuse them with as so many restaurants just sell downsized "normal" burgers as sliders. It's a very different taste and experience when they're cooked on the flat top over the onions, and as ElleTea noted - many people would likely find them disgusting on appearance alone. Even at home, I tend to put burgers on a flat top far more often than grilling them now. In fact, one of my best friends since High School had never experienced one until a couple years ago, and when I first showed her one, her reaction was similar - "How could you even think about those things?!?!? That's gotta be one of the most disgusting looking foods I've ever seen!" She's now nearly addicted to the things
Plus, at least at Telway, $5 did a good job of filling me up on burgers, fries and coffee
White Castles/Krystals is very similar, at least in the way they're cooked, but you can tell they're using fast food style burger meat whereas Telway, Bray's/Bray'z/Greene's/etc are using straight up beef. Kind of like the difference between fast food and normal restaurant burgers. I've tried the grocery store frozen White Castles, and I'll admit, the Jalapeno Cheeseburger variety is pretty close, albeit a bit pricey. It's enough to keep the cravings at bay so I don't feel the need to hop a plane to St. Louis occasionally just for some White Castle burgers, lol.
I'm going to take a ride down to Chicago Burgers soon to see what they have, and although it's not what I'm looking for, the little guys at Chompie's do look pretty tasty as well. I'll add them to the "to try" list as well
11-14-2014, 01:26 PM
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Aside from the semantic debate, IMO Chicago's, while ok, still doesn't compare to the likes of a Top Hat slider in Detroit (back in the day)
11-14-2014, 01:42 PM
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Those are just small burgers and way too gourmet. Guacamole on a slider is beyond sacrilege. The key to a real deal slider is the onions cooked on the flat top with the burger. Soft bun, greasy beef cooked on onions and cheese. Maybe pickles and mustard.
LOL really? From THAT? Looks like a standard McDonalds Hamburger, 2 cheap buns pressed together and a little something that may be meat inside, can't tell
11-14-2014, 02:11 PM
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LOL really? From THAT? Looks like a standard McDonalds Hamburger, 2 cheap buns pressed together and a little something that may be meat inside, can't tell
It's part nostalgia, part damn tasty food. You can smell the onions cooking from a mile away. The way the onions steam the beef and the bun is unique and the result is nothing even close to McD's.
11-21-2014, 11:14 AM
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I stopped by Chicago Burger yesterday to try their sliders....not exactly what I was looking for, but a heck of a lot closer than what the typical restaurant servers as a slider.
11-24-2014, 11:20 PM
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Yum! Belly Bombs
Love White Castle! Have not found anything like it here to date. The frozen cheeseburgers will have to do for now. Whenever I go back to MI, White Castle is a must stop place! Also miss National Coney Island, Jets Pizza, Sanders hot fudge, and Better Made barbecue potato chips. Still looking for good fresh Polish sausage here (think Dearborn Brand or Kowalski's) and Krakus Polish Ham lunch meat. Arrrrgghhhh!
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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