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Old 03-09-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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You're disgusted often, I presume. There's a lot of grass here in the valley. Most places have some non-native flora.

My grass gets watered every three days. I used 9,930 gallons total last month. I'm not sure if that's a lot but I'd be curious as to how that compares to someone without grass.

What about our hundreds of golf courses that contribute significantly to our tourism industry? Disgusting, or does the economic benefit outweigh the disgust and sadness?
10,000 gallons is a fair amount of water. I think the Phoenix average is about 9,000 gallons per month. I am over in Tucson where the average household uses about 7,500 gallons per month. The biggest difference between Phoenix and Tucson in water usage is lawns are pretty rare around here. Satellite photos of the two cities shows Phoenix with large neighborhoods where people have lawns. Its too bad areas like Sun City weren't planned with desert landscaping instead of grass. In my neighborhood with no lawns but less than two people in a house its less than 5,000 gallons per month. Probably about average considering the average household is only about 1.5 person.
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Old 03-09-2015, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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You're disgusted often, I presume. There's a lot of grass here in the valley. Most places have some non-native flora.
You assume wrong. And yes, theres lots of grass here. Two wrongs dont make a right.

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My grass gets watered every three days. I used 9,930 gallons total last month. I'm not sure if that's a lot but I'd be curious as to how that compares to someone without grass.
Thats a lot of water. It might not seem like a lot to you, but think about having 9,930 gallons of milk lying around your house. Thatll give you an idea how wasteful youre being.

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What about our hundreds of golf courses that contribute significantly to our tourism industry? Disgusting, or does the economic benefit outweigh the disgust and sadness?
Golf courses wasted trillions (yes, trillions) of gallons of water last year. All that precious water wasted so some goofy-pants-wearing yuppie can smack a ball around for leisure. Meanwhile the Colorado River is drying up, but hey! Gotta appease the golf crowd! Mother nature is being raped and people actually condone it, so yes, to me thats disgusting.
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but don't golf courses use grey water? At least that is SOMETHING. Grey water would otherwise just be dumped "down the drain" so to speak so at least some effort is being made for that purpose.

Too bad residents who insist on lawns couldn't tap into that, better than wasting "good" water.
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:51 PM
 
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It is a country based on a capitalist idea, it is in the constitution.
That stands for, everybody is allowed to start a business and people can basically pay what they want.
So, Detroit has a swimming pool, he must have known, while living in Detroit, that one day there is a swimming pool in his life. He pays his bills, so that is that.
The second the government tells you how much water you are allowed, all hell brakes out, next is, how much you can eat, drink, drive and what not.
You are on line, it takes an enormous amount off energy to get that going, satellites shot in space, electronics need many materials that are mined around the world or chemical put together, and so on. If you want to life clean, nothing wasted, move to N Korea.. There is nothing and you have nothing.
Maybe he wants a pool....

9000 gallon is what a tractor trailer tanker holds more or less, like a fuel tanker.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:01 PM
 
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I love all of the untrained "expert" climatologists in this thread
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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When it rains in march, februari has come and is gone...

Now, how about that.....
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Of course, the time I come back to CT/Boston, it's the snowiest and coldest February ever and Phoenix is warmer

I remember when we got the groppel and the McDowells were pretty with snow on them, but it only lasted a day. I guess we can never hope for perfect weather for what we want. It's too warm in the winter to cold. I can understand the feeling. I lived there for 8 years and didn't mind the cool temps. I love the sun though so always wished it was sunny. You appreciate it more when you live or have lived in different climates
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:32 PM
 
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When it rains in march, februari has come and is gone...

Now, how about that.....

Looking at the whole winter the rain total isn't too bad for some parts of Arizona. Where I live in Tucson we have had about 4 inches of rain since December 1 and Phoenix has had about 2.3 inches. Between the two its an average amount of rain for winter.
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Old 03-09-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Isn't this just like saying the last summer/fall record breaking monsoon flooding season we didn't need.
BTW where's all that water now.

Summer rains do little or nothing re: drought conditions, it's the winter snowpack that counts.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:15 PM
 
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I like my sunny days, long showers, my pool and my lush, green lawn. I wouldn't live here without a pool nor would I have dogs if their play area was just a bunch of rocks or fake turf. No thanks.

I applaud those of you driving dirty cars, taking short showers, admiring your rock gardens and doing your rain dance.
Water waster.
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