Tell me what you hate about the Valley (Phoenix, Scottsdale: 2014, casinos)

[BIG CATS]

1. Dud of a Phoenix downtown. Its getting better, but leaves much to be desired.
2. Far too many homeless people begging on every major corner.
3. No trains from most suburbs. Im not talking about light rail, but commuter trains that operate at higher speeds with less stops.
4. Dry heat is a joke. Its dry in June, quite humid the rest of summer. It dries out again, but it starts to get colder.
5. Palo Verde beetles during summer months. Theyre HUGE (3-4" long) and gross. And they fly. Trying to dogde them while biking is a pain.
6. Inconsiderate people who dont know trail etiquette.

[AzScorpion12]

Originally Posted by stevek64

I dislike hearing some people complain after moving here on why this/that/the other thing isn't the same as it was in the place they moved from.

I totally agree with this! Why move to an area then complain it's nothing like the place you just moved from? I can't wait to leave Ma. and look forward to the change, Az is the polar opposite. If you came here and now complain about the heat,schools,politics,traffic,low wages ect you just didn't do your homework before moving. The heat I can maybe understand as some say it wears on you after years and years here but it's no difference than the long winters wearing you down either. No place is perfect but people really need to look into an area before moving there instead of bashing it because they didn't do enough research.

Originally Posted by WSPHXPELON

Too many right wingers.

See above!

[sandy6879]

1. Developing allergies after never having them ever before.
2. There's a ton of chain restaurants and stores, and very few independents comparatively.
3. How packed the stores are at all hours of the day. I work from home, have for years. There is never a time that the stores don't have a ton of people in them.
4. No back roads to get anywhere - you have to take surface streets in the grid pattern. Going anywhere takes a lot longer here than it does elsewhere.
5. The small lots. I absolutely cannot understand why people would pay $250k-$500k for a home that is almost touching their neighbor.
6. The supposed "live and let live" unless you say/do something that someone else doesn't agree with. Keep an eye on some of the forums for plenty of examples.
7. People don't, as a rule, seem to set down roots here. I work with clients all over the valley. People move in and out of the Phoenix area very quickly. They all, across the valley, report it being hard to make real friends here past the surface conversation of the weather or work.

[westcoastbabe]

I moved from Charlotte and if anyone knows Charlotte, it's way better here heat and all.��Aside from the R&b radio vibe here it's all good here����

[AZgarden]

The libraries are below average with empty shelves and lack genuine activities for people who want more than just reading. Of course the taxes here don't support that type of library. Other cities with far less people have gigantic, modern libraries packed with stuff for all ages to do, including places within to meet people, hear lectures, play games, drop in for coffee , senior groups, learning groups, tax help, computer courses, etc etc. Here most of the stuff is for kids. Not alot of adult programming. Thus, most people go to a mall rather than visit a library.

[sandy6879]

Originally Posted by PhxBarb

The libraries are below average with empty shelves and lack genuine activities for people who want more than just reading. Of course the taxes here don't support that type of library. Other cities with far less people have gigantic, modern libraries packed with stuff for all ages to do, including places within to meet people, hear lectures, play games, drop in for coffee , senior groups, learning groups, tax help, computer courses, etc etc. Here most of the stuff is for kids. Not alot of adult programming. Thus, most people go to a mall rather than visit a library.

That is a VERY good point. I was shocked when we first arrived and went to a few of the libraries here. We don't go nearly as often as we used to where we lived before - and I spend a lot more money on Amazon ordering books.

[Bungle]

Originally Posted by PhxBarb

The libraries are below average with empty shelves and lack genuine activities for people who want more than just reading. Of course the taxes here don't support that type of library. Other cities with far less people have gigantic, modern libraries packed with stuff for all ages to do, including places within to meet people, hear lectures, play games, drop in for coffee , senior groups, learning groups, tax help, computer courses, etc etc. Here most of the stuff is for kids. Not alot of adult programming. Thus, most people go to a mall rather than visit a library.

The City of Phoenix libraries offer a lot of these programs. The South Mountain Community College Public Library is great.

[AZgarden]

Well maybe I should get in the car and drive all the way over to the South Mountain Community College Library then.
Recently went to Burton Barr downtown. Awful use of space. Bad lighting. Bums asking for money outside the door. And it looks like the whole place needs remodeling. Certainly not a friendly, warm atmosphere, in my opinion.

Lots of scary weird looking hippie types too ! Yikes!

[BoiWonder13]

Originally Posted by JGMotorsport64

I'm a native, I dislike seeing Phoenix grow outward at the pace it has. The crash and new lifestyle requests by millenials will hopefully move Phoenix into a denser and more sustainable place.

agree with this 100%

[Bungle]

Originally Posted by PhxBarb

Well maybe I should get in the car and drive all the way over to the South Mountain Community College Library then.
Recently went to Burton Barr downtown. Awful use of space. Bad lighting. Bums asking for money outside the door. And it looks like the whole place needs remodeling. Certainly not a friendly, warm atmosphere, in my opinion.

Lots of scary weird looking hippie types too ! Yikes!

Obviously you have hangups about people's appearances which likely turned you off from enjoying the library and looking further into what it has to offer. Every Phoenix Public Library offers many classes...both for kids and adults. A quick look at their calendar and you could take a new computer course...join a book club...rare book tour...pretty much a new event every day of the week. But then again...you'd have to walk near people that are different than you.