Snob vs. friendly factor in Goodyear? (Paradise Valley: live in, moving to, suburb)
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I'm not sure why I haven't met many friends. I have met many people but have called few my friends. It seems everyone is always rushing around in their own world. It's hard to connect.
Me too. It took me a LONG time to meet real "friends." This is the ONLY place where that happened. I have no idea why, but I don't think it was just me as I've heard this complaint time and time again from others.
i really like living in goodyear - still a lot of good value here as well
i don't think it differs much from any other part of the phoenix metro as far as community
i've lived many places and this is by far has the least sense of community - our new neighbors are really nice and we are getting to know them and one neighbor at the end of the street threw a neighborhood party around the holidays which was nice
but aside from that I really don't think i've spoken to any neighbors more than 3 times in the 3+ years i've lived there
it's definitely a backyard culture - however, in my subdivision we do have some green belts and a nice sidewalk - you'll see people walking their pets, kids on bikes/skateboards and in the more open green areas you'll see soccer/football games going on ..... it's nice
more parks are being built and kids will go to neighborhood parks as well
there is a good amount of community events for the families - estrella does a lot ..... so does the city itself (like free outdoor movie nights, etc)
really down to earth though - the people you encounter in the stores, driving, etc are usually pretty laid back
i also work downtown and the commute is rough - but definitely not any worse than anthem which in my experience is a nightmare to get in and out of - my commute is no worse than those going to downtown from chandler/gilbert/mesa
on a normal, non-rush hour day it's 30 minutes to the airport - also they are widening our stretch of highway starting any week now - will make it worse at first, but when done will ease some of the cogestion that is developing with more people moving out
my wife may stop working after kids and i've contemplated about selling the house and moving closer to the office and renting - but I really enjoy living in goodyear
Hello---I'm looking for some opinions on how friendly Goodyear residents are? We've lived in several major metropolitan areas in the midwest and south. Like anywhere, we met some snobs, met some nice people and some in between. But, we never had a problem making friends and developing relationships with neighbors and such.
However, we relocated to the Columbus area and were a bit shocked. Granted, we live in an affluent suburb, but still, we pictured friendly, outgoing Midwesterners. Instead, we have found that the majority of people are snobby--into having best of everything--homes, cars, clothes, etc. Whether someone living in our suburb owns a $200K home or a $700K home, it seems the the wife/mom (whom I have the most contact with) comes to the park in high heels, sheek outfit, $250 diaper bag, etc. She looks perfectly made up, many have plastic surgery and work out for 2 hours a day. I don't mean to judge or offend anyone. Just wondering how moms are in Goodyear? Thanks!!
That's too weird. I never would think it was like that in the midwest.
Sounds more live Beverly Hills...lol. I think Estrella Ranch is a bit clickish
but nothing like where you live now. (don't live there but have been
there a few times and know former co-workers who live there) But if you live
there you'll be in the click! You sound
like the type that would be very outgoing and with your two girls I bet you'll
be much happier than where you are now...
Thank you everybody for all the opinions! I appreciate it. Sheena, just curious---you said you haven't made a lot of friends in AZ. Why is that?...hard to meet people or you find people unfriendly?
I agree that there are unfriendly, snobby people everywhere you go. We've lived a lot of places and there hasn't been one city immune. However, I have never before lived somewhere where the majority of people are that way and it's hard to fit in. I guess I'm glad I've never experienced that before but man, gives life a new perspective. I never realized how good we had it before. It's lonely not being able to establish real friendships.
Again--thank you for the info. I want to try and get a good feel for how people are in a community (specifically, Goodyear--we like Estrella from what we see online). My husband and I have realized that there are many friendly suburbs in the Columbus area w/more down to earth people (snobs mixed in but not the majority). Unfortunately, we had 3 days to pick a house and we just made the wrong decision. Hope to make a better one next time.
Hmmm... wondering if we will move from being Ohio "neighbors" (we're moving to Phoenix from Cleveland) to being Estrella neighbors... we're looking at a home there this weekend !!
The newer MPCs differ from past ones in that there is a big emphasis on community amenities. Estrella, for example as you are interested in that area, has a big residents center with workout area, lap pool, cafe, waterpark, a boat rental (free), etc. The community is professionally managed and there is a catalog of things to do and events to get involved in. There is something every day. If you attend these functions you meet people. If you don't it is easy to simply sit in the house and never know anyone. But you get the choice that you don't in many Phoenix area neighborhoods.
As for kids, they play in their yards a lot. It's a back yard suburban culture more than a street scene like when I was young. Parents today tend to be overprotective and feel a lot better when they can watch the kids out the kitchen window. Everyone here has a walled in yard and most have pools as well. Kids hang out at one house or another and they pretty much live in the pool in the summer. We live on a cul-de-sac and the kids play in the street too more in winter and summer nights. But you don't see kids out much on the straight streets. We have all the soccer, baseball etc leagues for kids that you find anywhere. No question that things slow down in summer. People are on vacation (summer break is only 7-8 weeks) and it IS hot.
We have two private parks - there are kids by the boatload at the south lake park year round. Of course they have school, schools have playgrounds and they play there too. The kids are not bothered by the heat nearly as much as adults - just like the cold in the midwest.
People are out walking in force around the lakes and on the trails in the morning (to about 10-11) in summer and anytime of the day from Oct thru May. The fanatics are out year round at all times.
It was 78 degrees here in Estrella yesterday.
Thank you sooooo much for this post !!!! Now I'm REALLY looking forward to our move at the beginning of May ! My biggest concern about moving into the neighborhood was the ability to meet people and make "real" friends.
I lived in Estrella Mountain ranch for that time, which runs the gamut from middle (my tier) to upper-middle to upperclass and the vast majority people are not snobby at all! Well of course, you will meet some (mostly from the go-go east) snobs and the occasional senior Scottsdale transplants. Most people from Arizona are laid-back, inviting and friendly . I have not lived there for two years but everytime i come to visit, goodyear is growing and growing! I remember when estrella parkway was ust a long stretch of fields and that one lone airplane graveyard, now its houses and shopping center, not quite sure if its a curse or a good thing :/
I live in a North Shore suburb of Chicago where it is like that too (snobby). We are thinking of moving to Paradise Valley (I know it's very affluent there, but that may not necessarily mean people are cliquish there, right?) Would anyone from Paradise Valley happen to know?
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