What size do you see the Phoenix area growing into by 2050? (Mesa: to rent, homes)

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by chahunt

What high wage jobs in healthcare are you referring to, exactly?

In Phoenix a nurse will start at the average Arizona household income and go up from there. Mayo and banner are both hiring hundreds of doctors over the next three years for major expansions and any number of techs, suppliers, specialists, coucelors etc make at or above the average household income in this state

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm

How will enough water be found for that many more people?

Because we have plenty of water.

[Code Stemi]

Originally Posted by Obadno

In Phoenix a nurse will start at the average Arizona household income and go up from there. Mayo and banner are both hiring hundreds of doctors over the next three years for major expansions and any number of techs, suppliers, specialists, coucelors etc make at or above the average household income in this state

I didn't think an RN made decent money in PHX area but I could be wrong. I am a RN looking to relocate to PHX and if you have more info on wages I'd be interested in PMing you.

[rsontag]

If Arizona growth starts to look anything like the PROGRESSIVE GROWTH of California,I will look to find a new place to live
and if Phoenix wants to be a new San Francisco. By BY

[Prickly Pear]

Originally Posted by rsontag

If Arizona growth starts to look anything like the PROGRESSIVE GROWTH of California,I will look to find a new place to live
and if Phoenix wants to be a new San Francisco. By BY

Don't move to a multi-million+ city if you can't take the urbanity kiddo.

[cactusland]

Originally Posted by Prickly Pear

Don't move to a multi-million+ city if you can't take the urbanity kiddo.

'Urbanity' and 'progressive' are two different things.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Valley Native

You're talking mainly about property values. I was referring to the overall cost of living. Phoenix is reasonably priced compared to CA, but summer electric bills, car maintenance, and water can be expensive. The City Council is considering raising water rates by 12% over the next two years. Above all, the wages here aren't keeping up with the rising living costs. So while life here might be affordable compared to CA and some other areas, it doesn't mean that it's "cheap" to live here by any means.

This argument occurs everywhere, I travel extensively for work and I've never been to a city and heard "wages are exactly where they need to be for my city." It's always your argument, things are going up but my pay sure isn't.

I'd rather make $26/hr in Phoenix than $29/hr in LA or NY.

https://www.paychex.com/employment-watch/#!/wage-data/

[Prickly Pear]

Originally Posted by cactusland

'Urbanity' and 'progressive' are two different things.

They aren't, actually. When you live in a dense area that means you have to share more. That means more public services like transit, sewer systems, schools... means more democrat and progressive spending.

If you want no taxes except for military and police and not pay for your fair share of civilization, a rural area with dirt roads sounds a lot better for you.

[Angelino19]

The reason most cities grow is a good job market and cheap housing. There are exceptions to that rule; NY, LA, SF. But those cites have large foreign born populations and billions of dollars in foreign investment. They are also big tourist mecca's.

By 2050 I can see Phoenix growing by 2 to 2.5 million if housing remains affordable and there's a strong job market. But along with that growth will come major infrastructure concerns, like transportation and access to water. My advise for the future of Phoenix is to build up and not out.

[locolife]

Originally Posted by Angelino19

The reason most cities grow is a good job market and cheap housing. There are exceptions to that rule; NY, LA, SF. But those cites have large foreign born populations and billions of dollars in foreign investment. They are also big tourist mecca's.

By 2050 I can see Phoenix growing by 2 to 2.5 million if housing remains affordable and there's a strong job market. But along with that growth will come major infrastructure concerns, like transportation and access to water. My advise for the future of Phoenix is to build up and not out.

I think your advice, along with many others, is being considered. There are 7 cranes in Tempe now and 5 or 6 in downtown Phoenix. You're seeing the downtown areas thrive, while I still believe there is demand for growth on the fringes the infill is certainly alive and well here.