APS Electric (live, to move, electric bill)

[LBTRS]

I just used the comparison tool and each of the 4 new plans is a huge increase in cost over what I am currently paying.

Between the increased cost of goods and services in the area due to Prop 206 and these electrical rates I've taken a BIG decrease in my purchasing power over the last year.

What use to cost us $130-$150 at Fry's for our grocery shopping is now over $200. Add the increase in electrical rates, eating out, etc. we're not doing as well as we once were.

[Ponderosa]

My bill does not look like it will change all that much with fall coming on. With the rate increase on peak on combined advantage, it looks cheaper to go with R3 sooner rather than later. But it's hard to figure it out as the impact of the off peak 12-3 versus the on peak of 7-8 is difficult to predict. Some of my current on peak would definitely move to off peak under the new rate and I can keep things off peak from 7 to 8. IDK how demand would be affected. On the demand plans, the demand charge is the biggest worry by far and the demand rate went up a lot. I will probably buy a window ac for the room we spend the 3-8 time in and let the rest of the place just get hot. Already have one in the BR.

Depending on ability to adjust this is a very significant rate increase. Among the worst APS has done and the media completely missed it with the average $6 per month narrative.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by Bird Street

Is this going to make my SRP (Water and Electric) home more valuable for resale? SRP has increases from time to time that don't even have to be rubber stamped by the ACC. I'm too old to build and move into a styrofoam house at this point. It seems to me that SRP took a tough approach to solar power before APS did.

Probably not, most people when buying homes pay attention to location/house quality above all else. Nobody generally cares about who their utility providers are.

[lewdog_5]

I'm having a hard time figuring out if I should switch to the standard flat rate plan or keep the time of use plan with our solar, which covers 75% of our home usage. With the old rates I was thinking the standard plan would be cheaper, as we were left with lots of on peak credits at the end of the year and they pay out only a fraction of what those are worth. If I make the switch to standard plan now though, we lose the ability to do what we want from 12-7 and use all the on peak power we want, which includes our AC and pool use.

I'm more confused now than ever!

[HX_Guy]

Originally Posted by kell490

I guess the only people who made out was anyone who bought solar prior to the rate change they are grandfathered in for 20 years. The solar industry settled with APS they got what they wanted everyone complains about the rates but most people will just pay it.

Its not too late to get grandfathered solar - the deadline is August 31st.

It's practically selling itself now, all people have to do is log into their APS account and see how much more they will spend with APS if they don't go solar.

[HX_Guy]

Originally Posted by lewdog_5

I'm having a hard time figuring out if I should switch to the standard flat rate plan or keep the time of use plan with our solar, which covers 75% of our home usage. With the old rates I was thinking the standard plan would be cheaper, as we were left with lots of on peak credits at the end of the year and they pay out only a fraction of what those are worth. If I make the switch to standard plan now though, we lose the ability to do what we want from 12-7 and use all the on peak power we want, which includes our AC and pool use.

I'm more confused now than ever!

I can probably help you figure that out if you want to send me your APS login via private message.

[kell490]

Originally Posted by HX_Guy

Its not too late to get grandfathered solar - the deadline is August 31st.

It's practically selling itself now, all people have to do is log into their APS account and see how much more they will spend with APS if they don't go solar.

We plan on moving out of state up north looking at Colorado I don't mind the mountain snow.

[lewdog_5]

Originally Posted by HX_Guy

I can probably help you figure that out if you want to send me your APS login via private message.

Any way I can email you some APS bills and have you figure it out instead of the log in information? I know it used to be close, but with them shortening the on peak window I am not sure anymore.

[wannabeaTexan]

Not in AZ, but curious about these rates. My last bill was $242 for 1659 sq ft...kids at home for summer & AC on 24/7. Any comparisons for what that would be with APS, before & after new rates?

[Valley Native]

I'm with SRP, and my electric bills have actually been reduced in the summer months because I'm away from my house quite often this time of year. Summer is my "get out of the heat vacation season". Normally I keep my thermostat around 78 degrees when I'm home ... however, when I go on vacation, I set my thermostat up in the mid 80s, turn off most lights, and of course I don't use any appliances like the stove, washer, and dryer. This is the way to save on electricity costs: get out of Phoenix as much as possible during the hell season. What you spend on travel expenses can be made up by reductions in your household utility bills!