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Old 03-23-2008, 12:10 AM
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Photo radar is nothing more than a revenue generator for government agencies. I'm just thankful that there are some intelligent members of the Arizona Legislature who agree that these cameras are just cash cows, and are wanting to put the brakes on widespread camera usage on the highways. Napolitano admitted (in so many words) that these radar cams are a good source of revenue to help the state's budget deficit.

As far as promoting safety, photo radar does no such thing. Human officers are the only ones who can pull you over, give you a lecture on traffic laws & safety, and cite you (or even arrest you) for breaking the law. Can radar cameras do any of this? Absolutely not! Someone please provide some factual information that photo radar actually makes the roads safer. I'm waiting!

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Old 03-23-2008, 12:20 AM
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Are they a cash machine? Sure...but who is making them "work"?

I'm not saying they are a good idea and I myself have been caught once or twice, but I don't blame the government for having the cameras there, I blame myself for speeding past them.

That's what I don't get...people are so upset that they don't promote safety and all they do is generate cash for the government...but who are the ones that are keeping the speed camera companies in business?

Seems like a lot of people have the concept that it's alright to break the law unless you get caught...sounds like back in high school when most kids hate the cops...and the only reason they hate them is because they can't drink, act out, etc.

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Old 03-23-2008, 12:31 AM
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As far as promoting safety, photo radar does no such thing. Human officers are the only ones who can pull you over, give you a lecture on traffic laws & safety, and cite you (or even arrest you) for breaking the law. Can radar cameras do any of this? Absolutely not! Someone please provide some factual information that photo radar actually makes the roads safer. I'm waiting!
If you can't see how they help people slow down and stop running through red lights, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very happy to have photo radar.

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Old 03-23-2008, 01:08 AM
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If you can't see how they help people slow down and stop running through red lights, then I don't know what to tell you. I am very happy to have photo radar.
I'm not talking so much about red light cameras. I'm generally in favor of those because there are too many people who run red lights and put other people's lives in danger. There is factual evidence to prove that running red lights causes accidents ... very serious (and fatal) ones.

However, speed is not the cause of accidents. Inattentiveness and being impaired behind the wheel are the primary causes. I may be a fast driver for the most part, but I have a spotless driving record (no accidents) because of the fact that I'm always attentive. Quite frankly, the near misses I've encountered have been by SLOWPOKES who cut across the solid white exit lane at the last second and have almost side swiped me because they weren't paying attention. Slow driving on freeways (especially in the left lanes) can be dangerous because it impedes the flow of traffic, and causes impatience/road rage among other drivers. So how does getting people to slow down make the roads safer???

I guess I could say that I'm happy to have photo radar too ... if I wanted Arizona to be a robotic police state! But if I'm going to be cited for a traffic violation (which I never have been, BTW), I'd much rather deal with a human cop than a stupid camera!

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Old 03-24-2008, 02:32 AM
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I can't believe how many people are so complacent with the continuing loss of Liberty. We are now being convicted by machines. Wake up! If you drive slow stay to the right and let the more adept drivers pass. The founding fathers would be mortified at how the government has become so punative and our daily lives so regulated. Our prisons are full of non-violent drug offenders. We pay people billions to work year round to come up with new laws. How many laws do we need? Perhaps we should all have GPS inserted into a bodily orafice so that the government knows how fast we are going where no cameras are currently set up. Maybe cameras in restrooms to arrest non hand washing disease spreaders. That's a huge public safety issue. Where does it end?

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Old 03-24-2008, 07:09 PM
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This country is based upon rules and laws. If you can't follow/obey them then you pay the consequences.

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Old 03-24-2008, 08:12 PM
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This country is based upon rules and laws. If you can't follow/obey them then you pay the consequences.
But only as the law requires or provides...

Minor immorality can be vigorously defended to the extent the law allows...It is the American way..

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Old 03-25-2008, 06:00 PM
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Hello,

Does anyone know for sure if Scottsdale City Court sends out process servers to out of state drivers in Northern California. I recieved two photo radar tickets 4 minutes apart on the 101 loop, and wondering for sure what will happen if I ignore these tickets.

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Old 03-25-2008, 06:39 PM
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More than likely you won't hear from them until you come back here again and get stopped by the police, they run a warrant check, then the hammer will drop big time.

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Old 03-25-2008, 06:48 PM
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Hello,

Does anyone know for sure if Scottsdale City Court sends out process servers to out of state drivers in Northern California. I recieved two photo radar tickets 4 minutes apart on the 101 loop, and wondering for sure what will happen if I ignore these tickets.

Thanks
Well - let me tell you a little "story" -

Seems there was this guy who, like you, got two photo radar tickets right in a row - guess he liked having his picture taken

Now, I don't know how fast you were going but, this guy had the "pedal to the metal" as the saying goes -

Scottsdale tracked him down, through several states, and arrested him - at his office -

Food for thought

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