01-09-2018, 05:44 AM
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I agree. This is the Phoenix forum. Who cares about what's going on in Illinois?
The Midwest seems to get compared to Phoenix constantly since so many people have left there and moved here but comparing vertical prominence of mountains, especially those within close proximity to large cities is like Shaq versus Kevin Hart in a dunk contest, this is going nowhere but has made for some good laughs.
01-09-2018, 08:07 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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because he needs to feel correct.
Well, had you read the thread from start to finish, you'd see the mountains here in AZ were FIRST being compared to mountains in Canada and Colorado. I didn't see you bashing that. I guess you were ok with that for some reason? I dunno.
And if you understood the conversation at hand, I'm making a point that many hills in the Midwest are as tall as the hills here we call "mountains". Its absolutely on topic, sorry if you don't agree with it. But if people here are content with calling spots like A Mountain a "mountain", yet hills in Missouri that are taller (than A Mountain in Tempe) are "just hills", then we really are a special kind of stupid here in AZ.
01-09-2018, 08:09 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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They’re pretty typical among the Southwest’s minor mountain ranges that are all over Arizona, some are bigger than others but PMP has a handful of >1,000 prominence mountains including Piestawa, Shaw Butte, and believe it or not Camelback is geologically connected to the Phoenix Mountains too. if they’re not big enough for you to do the Toms Thumb route I showed you or Siphon Draw.
I plan on hiking that route, actually. Thanks for showing me that, I didn't know it existed. As for Flat Iron/Siphon Draw, but not sure I'm quite in shape for that beast yet.
01-09-2018, 08:11 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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I agree. This is the Phoenix forum. Who cares about what's going on in Illinois?
Yet you didn't care about comparisons to the mountains in Canada, New Mexico, Colorado, East Coast, etc, that were being discussed? Your anti-Midwest bias is strong. Don't be mad that skyscrapers in the Midwest are taller than many of our "mountains".
01-09-2018, 08:33 AM
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Yet you didn't care about comparisons to the mountains in Canada, New Mexico, Colorado, East Coast, etc, that were being discussed? Your anti-Midwest bias is strong. Don't be mad that skyscrapers in the Midwest are taller than many of our "mountains".
ALL OF IT is off topic, actually. But there is a running theme on this forum to always bring up Illinois.
Dude, I am FROM the midwest, but I don't need to talk about it 24/7. I left for a reason.
This whole thread has gotten ridiculous. I am amazed that people have nothing better to do than argue about hills vs. mountains or whether "my mountain is taller than your building (apples to elephants)." I wish my life was so carefree!
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01-09-2018, 10:35 AM
Location: Centennial, CO
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Well, had you read the thread from start to finish, you'd see the mountains here in AZ were FIRST being compared to mountains in Canada and Colorado. I didn't see you bashing that. I guess you were ok with that for some reason? I dunno.
If we're talking technical semantics, then "A" Mountain is not the actual name of that specific example you keep bringing up - it's just a popular nickname for it. It's technically referred to as Hayden or Tempe Butte. In fact, almost all of the technical names of the smaller "mountains" in town are referred to as "buttes". See Twin Buttes, Signal Butte, etc.
01-09-2018, 11:24 AM
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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ALL OF IT is off topic, actually. But there is a running theme on this forum to always bring up Illinois.
Dude, I am FROM the midwest, but I don't need to talk about it 24/7. I left for a reason.
This whole thread has gotten ridiculous. I am amazed that people have nothing better to do than argue about hills vs. mountains or whether "my mountain is taller than your building (apples to elephants)." I wish my life was so carefree!
Make it carefree. You could start by moving there.
01-09-2018, 11:56 AM
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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This thread reminded me of my ex wife who was originally from Utah (I'm in Kentucky). One summer my parents took us for a week's vacation in the Great Smokie Mountains, in east Tennessee, a popular vacation in this part of the country. My ex, used to the Rockies and Wasatch Mountains, looked around and said, several times, "Well, these are nice, but in Utah..." . I think my parents were about tired of hearing those three words "but in Utah". lol
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Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Dude, I am FROM the midwest, but I don't need to talk about it 24/7. I left for a reason.
