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Old 04-27-2018, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Ah...now I see...AZCentral has put out an OpEd summarily decry-ing collusion between the AEA and David Garcia so we shouldn't question the motives or any back room dealings because it is crazy talk. Got it. Nothing to see here...move along...keep your heads down and embrace the like speak.
No doubt it is bad optics for the AEA to make this endorsement at this time, but it is silly to think they would do otherwise but endorse him. He is a one issue candidate: education. He has a PhD in education and is a professor in ASU's teacher college. This is the guy who lost to Diane Douglas for Super of Public Instruction in one of the most mind-numbing voters' choices in the history of the state (right up there with lawn mower repairman Godbehere for county sheriff).
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Ah...now I see...AZCentral has put out an OpEd summarily decry-ing collusion between the AEA and David Garcia so we shouldn't question the motives or any back room dealings because it is crazy talk. Got it. Nothing to see here...move along...keep your heads down and embrace the like speak.
No I thought that all along when I heard it on KTAR.

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No doubt it is bad optics for the AEA to make this endorsement at this time, but it is silly to think they would do otherwise but endorse him. He is a one issue candidate: education. He has a PhD in education and is a professor in ASU's teacher college. This is the guy who lost to Diane Douglas for Super of Public Instruction in one of the most mind-numbing voters' choices in the history of the state (right up there with lawn mower repairman Godbehere for county sheriff).
Douglas winning was pretty much because she was TEA Party, Republican and for school choice. That's why. I didn't vote for that idiot.
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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budgets can get modified at any time; trust me, I know this, as Illinois went over 2 years without ANY budget..
June may be the "deadline". but nothing is ever set in stone when it comes to state funding of anything
Actually I take it back, April is the "deadline" Thanks Ballotpedia...
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BUDGET PROCESS
Arizona operates on a biennial budget cycle, with each biennium beginning in July. The sequence of key events in the budget process is as follows:

Budget instructions are sent to state agencies on June 1 of the year preceding the start of the new biennium
State agencies submit their budget requests to the governor by September 1.
Agency hearings are held in November and December.
The governor submits his or her proposed budget to the state legislature in January.
From January through April, the legislature debates the budget. A simple majority is required to pass a budget.
Arizona is one of 44 states in which the governor has line item veto authority.

The governor is required by law to submit a balanced budget to the legislature. In turn, the legislature is legally required to pass a balanced budget.
Basically April is supposed to be end of the time to debate the budget to pass one, leading to a balanced budget on the desk of the governor.

There is no proof of Arizona having or not having budget adendems. I'm sure there is unless it is constitutionally illegal in the state like pre-planned spending.
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Old 04-27-2018, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Brewer is the one you should mostly blame because education funding was reduced on her watch, and that was largely because her predecessor (Napolitano) allowed the budget to become overextended with all day Kindergarten and other unnecessary costly measures. I think it's pretty damn hypocritical of Brewer to publicly criticize Ducey and the Legislature. Ducey at least is reasonable and offered to raise the teachers' salaries ... but then the teachers still walked out, and the Legislature adjourned for the weekend. This has put him in a bad situation which is not his fault.
Ducey was in this situation for four years now. He pushed prop 123 to revert funding through the AZ Land Trust. However Russell Pierce (I previously said Dewitt, I'm sorry for the confusion) fought it and won ending the education funding through 123. https://ballotpedia.org/Arizona_Educ..._123_(May_2016)

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Agree 100%! My company is at least offering reimbursements for daycare, which I'm sure many smaller businesses aren't doing (mainly because of the cost). I sympathize with the teachers because of how low their wages are, but they are going about this the wrong way. It's one thing to strike & protest, but when it negatively affects millions of people around the state, it becomes a whole different story!
Yes but here's the reverse of the whole issue, they walked out yesterday and then did so today only because the State House adjourned in the middle of yesterday's rally. As much teachers are to blame, the legislature for taking two weeks to even vote on Ducey's plan and then walking out after the Senate passed it is just to blame, if not more so. This was a negotiation tactic that teachers had to use because Ducey wouldn't talk to them.
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:30 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Brewer is the one you should mostly blame because education funding was reduced on her watch, and that was largely because her predecessor (Napolitano) allowed the budget to become overextended with all day Kindergarten and other unnecessary costly measures. I think it's pretty damn hypocritical of Brewer to publicly criticize Ducey and the Legislature. Ducey at least is reasonable and offered to raise the teachers' salaries ... but then the teachers still walked out, and the Legislature adjourned for the weekend. This has put him in a bad situation which is not his fault.



Agree 100%! My company is at least offering reimbursements for daycare, which I'm sure many smaller businesses aren't doing (mainly because of the cost). I sympathize with the teachers because of how low their wages are, but they are going about this the wrong way. It's one thing to strike & protest, but when it negatively affects millions of people around the state, it becomes a whole different story!
When does a strike NOT affect large swaths of people, that's the POINT. If it didn't affect people it'd be totally useless. Kind of like walking around protesting out in the middle of the desert. The cactus may be sympathetic but they don't vote...
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:36 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Anyone see the interview with Diane Douglas today on ABC 15? I just had to shake my head in amazement when she said that "the walkout blind sided" her.
REALLY?
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Anyone see the interview with Diane Douglas today on ABC 15? I just had to shake my head in amazement when she said that "the walkout blind sided" her.
REALLY?
My sister-in-law (who really is a sister to me and not biology based) posted this on her Facebook. Like me she too is Paraprofessional with a different (but still) local (to her) district and Douglas is a tool of the walk out blindsided her because she even said she would de-certify teachers who "striked" as of last Friday.

In more news Ducey is an idiot. He announced a deal with Senate and House leadership for the teacher and support staff raises along with funding but now claims he don't see why anyone would vote it down. Ugh, I don't know, maybe the Republicans who are fiscally conservative. I had to turn off NBC-12 because I was getting so mad at the lies and idiocracy from this Ducebag Arizona has for a Governor until January.

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Old 04-27-2018, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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My sister-in-law (who really is a sister to me and not biology based) posted this on her Facebook. Like me she too is Paraprofessional with a different (but still) local (to her) district and Douglas is a tool of the walk out blindsided her because she even said she would de-certify teachers who "striked" as of last Friday.

In more news Ducey is an idiot. He announced a deal with Senate and House leadership for the tea Cher and support staff raises along with funding but now claims he don't see why anyone would vote it down. Ugh, I don't know, maybe the Republicans who are fiscally conservative. I had to turn off NBC-12 because I was getting so mad at the lies and idiocracy from this Ducebag Arizona has for a Governor until January.
There needs to be a real bill that people can look at and a vote, not another campaign ad from Ducey.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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No doubt it is bad optics for the AEA to make this endorsement at this time, but it is silly to think they would do otherwise but endorse him. He is a one issue candidate: education. He has a PhD in education and is a professor in ASU's teacher college. This is the guy who lost to Diane Douglas for Super of Public Instruction in one of the most mind-numbing voters' choices in the history of the state (right up there with lawn mower repairman Godbehere for county sheriff).
Well...I did vote for him in that election...it still pisses me off that he lost to...well...there are some descriptors I could throw out there about Diane Douglas but I won't.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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HA...I just heard that Payson Unified is making the days up on Saturdays. No way in heck would I be sending my kids to school on a Saturday because the Teachers decided to walk out. Nope nope and nope.
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