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Old 05-14-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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I've seen more than my fair share of urban redevelopment around central Phoenix the past few years. But this is a first for me. At Third Street & Earl (just north of Thomas) the entire block of homes and businesses has been fenced off to make room for another apartment complex. Wondering how the developer was able to make an offer that at least 20+ homeowners couldn't refuse?
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Old 05-14-2018, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I've seen more than my fair share of urban redevelopment around central Phoenix the past few years. But this is a first for me. At Third Street & Earl (just north of Thomas) the entire block of homes and businesses has been fenced off to make room for another apartment complex. Wondering how the developer was able to make an offer that at least 20+ homeowners couldn't refuse?
One of the apartments I used to live at ended up demolishing a couple blocks worth of existing single family homes to build, in the vicinity of 24th St and Culver St. If you look at a satellite image of the area from over 10 years ago and today, completely different
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:15 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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I've seen more than my fair share of urban redevelopment around central Phoenix the past few years. But this is a first for me. At Third Street & Earl (just north of Thomas) the entire block of homes and businesses has been fenced off to make room for another apartment complex. Wondering how the developer was able to make an offer that at least 20+ homeowners couldn't refuse?
They are building an apartment complex right there for autistic adults.

Phoenix nonprofit builds apartments to help adults living with a - Arizona's Family
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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I don't know the history but the applicant asked for and received a zoning change a year ago from R-5 (multi-family) and R1-6 (small lot single family) to "WU (Walkable Urban Code) T5:6 MT(Midtown Transit Oriented Development Policy District)". It was already in the General Plan as "Multifamily Residential, 15+ dwellings per acre" so this usage must have been foreseen for some time. They are approved for 335 dwelling units with 517 parking spaces and 50 bicycle parking spaces. The proximity to light rail would have allowed them (should have in my mind) to go down to 474 parking spaces but they did not. Primary pedestrian access is on 3rd Street with a parking garage facing Cheery Lynn.

Details: https://www.phoenix.gov/pddsite/Docu...PZ/Z-12-17.pdf
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Old 05-14-2018, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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They are building an apartment complex right there for autistic adults.

Phoenix nonprofit builds apartments to help adults living with a - Arizona's Family
No, that is something different, much smaller and farther south.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:51 AM
 
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They are building an apartment complex right there for autistic adults.

Phoenix nonprofit builds apartments to help adults living with a - Arizona's Family

That complex is almost done, I'm working with the agency that is building that. This is a new complex on the other side of Earl.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:26 AM
 
Location: downtown phoenix
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I'm all for infill but the trend of bulldozing single family homes to build over priced "luxury" apartments is sickening. The amount of these units coming on line is ridiculous and totally unsustainable. Developer greed buying city councilman and not giving a crap about what's best for our city. Typical.
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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I'm all for infill but the trend of bulldozing single family homes to build over priced "luxury" apartments is sickening. The amount of these units coming on line is ridiculous and totally unsustainable. Developer greed buying city councilman and not giving a crap about what's best for our city. Typical.
How is it sickening? Supply and demand. Would you rather have a $1,500/month apartment or a $800,000 house (which would be a $4,000/month mortgage payment with no down, $3,200/month if you could come up with the 20% down)?
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Willo Historic District, Phoenix, AZ
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I'm all for infill but the trend of bulldozing single family homes to build over priced "luxury" apartments is sickening. The amount of these units coming on line is ridiculous and totally unsustainable. Developer greed buying city councilman and not giving a crap about what's best for our city. Typical.
Developer greed is a fact, but "buying city councilman (sic)" is reckless rhetoric. I suppose that you have evidence.
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Old 05-15-2018, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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Developer greed is a fact, but "buying city councilman (sic)" is reckless rhetoric. I suppose that you have evidence.
Allegations of corruption have unfortunately become common even when the only real complaint is an undesired outcome. There are plenty of controversial decisions made every day, but relatively few are attributable to genuine corruption. Personally, I'm glad to see more density near light rail, although I agree with your earlier statement that it would have been nice to see the developer take advantage of diminished parking requirements.
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