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Old 04-23-2019, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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There are plans for high rises. Maybe the city of Phoenix is thinking up instead of out now?

https://kjzz.org/content/848276/high...ix-transit-hub
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Old 04-23-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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There are plans for high rises. Maybe the city of Phoenix is thinking up instead of out now?

https://kjzz.org/content/848276/high...ix-transit-hub
This is a dynamic city. The city is planning for both upward and outward growth, not one or the other.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ (May 08)
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With the exception of the reservation issue - I think growth PATTERNS are about the same as before the crash - not as many yet in the exurbs as it was in the 2000s - but believe me - as the article mentions - Casa Grande is back on the growth path. Houses being built everywhere you look and this is BEFORE the groundbreaking of Lucid Motors and Nikola Motors.

Pinal County on a percentage basis is actually growing FASTER than Maricopa County - 19% over the eight years released in the census report the other day - versus 15% for Maricopa.
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Old 04-23-2019, 10:20 PM
 
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With the exception of the reservation issue - I think growth PATTERNS are about the same as before the crash - not as many yet in the exurbs as it was in the 2000s - but believe me - as the article mentions - Casa Grande is back on the growth path. Houses being built everywhere you look and this is BEFORE the groundbreaking of Lucid Motors and Nikola Motors.

Pinal County on a percentage basis is actually growing FASTER than Maricopa County - 19% over the eight years released in the census report the other day - versus 15% for Maricopa.
To be fair, Maricopa County is a lot larger than Pinal County so a percentage basis is a little misleading.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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With the exception of the reservation issue - I think growth PATTERNS are about the same as before the crash - not as many yet in the exurbs as it was in the 2000s - but believe me - as the article mentions - Casa Grande is back on the growth path. Houses being built everywhere you look and this is BEFORE the groundbreaking of Lucid Motors and Nikola Motors.

Pinal County on a percentage basis is actually growing FASTER than Maricopa County - 19% over the eight years released in the census report the other day - versus 15% for Maricopa.
What is happening with Phoenix Mart, Dreamport Village, or the high performance race track that were all supposed to come to Pinal? It seems like developers have a pretty apparent track record of over promising and not delivering. What about other major employers? I have a feeling Pinal will just continue adding people left and right because housing prices are significantly cheaper there than in most of urban and suburban Maricopa County. Most of these people will just pour onto the 10 daily to make the drive to the immediate Phoenix area for work and entertainment.

Maricopa County was adding an average of around 100,000 people per year leading up to 2008. We are still adding between 80k-90k. Funding for ADOT is also way down from where it was before the recession. This may look like a repeat of the early and middle part of last decade, but it’s not.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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I know my idea might not be popular, but the city of Phoenix should consolidate into its own county. It's growing at a considerable rate and would be managed better.
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Old 04-24-2019, 04:27 PM
 
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I know my idea might not be popular, but the city of Phoenix should consolidate into its own county. It's growing at a considerable rate and would be managed better.
That’s the opposite of consolidation
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Old 04-24-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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I know my idea might not be popular, but the city of Phoenix should consolidate into its own county. It's growing at a considerable rate and would be managed better.
You think a city of 1.6million in a metro of 4.7 million should be it's own county? Not that Maricopa county provides the cities within it with much of any services, the county basically exist to police Sun City (not an incorporated city) and the other, smaller, county islands.
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Old 04-24-2019, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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You think a city of 1.6million in a metro of 4.7 million should be it's own county? Not that Maricopa county provides the cities within it with much of any services, the county basically exist to police Sun City (not an incorporated city) and the other, smaller, county islands.
I didn't know about that, learn something new everyday.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ (May 08)
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You think a city of 1.6million in a metro of 4.7 million should be it's own county? Not that Maricopa county provides the cities within it with much of any services, the county basically exist to police Sun City (not an incorporated city) and the other, smaller, county islands.
This is a bit simplistic don't you think?

The county provides jail, court, voting, air quality, and dozens of other countywide functions....

Could each city provide these on their own, or transfer them to the state? Yes. But the county does more than provide unincorporated area police services.
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