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Old 10-24-2019, 07:13 PM
 
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What is Tuscon Metro?
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Old 10-25-2019, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Phoenix is more likely to meet Yuma than Tuscon (though neither is even remotely likely). Water and reservations make southern expansion unlikely. It's wide open all the way to Yuma on the west side and there is water along the Gila basin.
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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That's hilarious! LOL

Casa Grande has a lot of work to do. Ugh....
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Old 10-25-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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We'll run out of water way before that ever happens.
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Old 10-25-2019, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Casa Grande, AZ (May 08)
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That's hilarious! LOL

Casa Grande has a lot of work to do. Ugh....
Not to get too sensitive about it - we that live in CG know this video was a joke. But of course it is not accurate in many ways.

Yes, there have been a couple of projects that started and then stopped - but that happens everywhere.

But CG is building is back on a housing boom again this year...as someone mentioned LUCID MOTORS is already grading ground to begin building their approved factory, and there is LOTS of stuff not announced quite yet. (I am active in the planning community here in town so I know).

Take a drive west from the freeway a half mile and you ll see a pretty normal looking suburb.

Oh, as for the original question - my guess it will be decades and will likely never include much of the Gila River Res except right along the freeway. The GRIC does have plans to do things similar to the Salt River tribe did along the 202....you can see the signs advertising for interest near Wild Horse Pass Rd already.

And there is still a lot of miles between Marana and Eloy though - so it will take a while.

And with 60K people full time, and 80K in the winter, its not like there is nothing here in CG. Even our mall is showing some signs of revitalization (the big one - not the old one he makes fun of in the video) - with more of an entertainment/dining bent.

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Old 10-25-2019, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Uptown Phoenix, AZ
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Potentially. I'm already hearing people referring to Coolidge as an exurb. I'm done with people. Coolidge??

It's honestly gross how much we've sprawled already, ruining our unique desert so people can have yards they never use, and changes in our environment doesn't seem to get people to question their lifestyle. Phoenix will be one of the places in the country hit worst from climate change, but not THE worst, due the fact we aren't vulnerable to bad natural disasters (heatwaves are considered natural disasters so yes we do get them VERY consistently, but heatwaves are no earthquakes) and rising sea levels.
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Old 10-26-2019, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Potentially. I'm already hearing people referring to Coolidge as an exurb. I'm done with people. Coolidge??

It's honestly gross how much we've sprawled already, ruining our unique desert so people can have yards they never use, and changes in our environment doesn't seem to get people to question their lifestyle. Phoenix will be one of the places in the country hit worst from climate change, but not THE worst, due the fact we aren't vulnerable to bad natural disasters (heatwaves are considered natural disasters so yes we do get them VERY consistently, but heatwaves are no earthquakes) and rising sea levels.
Yes, we have sprawl, but a lot of growing areas suffer from the same thing. What are you supposed to do? People want to live here. Lots are already getting smaller and smaller. It's not uncommon to see 3,000 sq ft lots (sometimes even less). Home prices are going up, yet people are still moving here. Same things are happening in Dallas, Austin, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc. People are moving to warmer weather. Not sure what solutions you have.
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Uptown Phoenix, AZ
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Yes, we have sprawl, but a lot of growing areas suffer from the same thing. What are you supposed to do? People want to live here. Lots are already getting smaller and smaller. It's not uncommon to see 3,000 sq ft lots (sometimes even less). Home prices are going up, yet people are still moving here. Same things are happening in Dallas, Austin, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc. People are moving to warmer weather. Not sure what solutions you have.
Building townhouses and condos instead. And letting existing housing build guesthouses or casitas or ADUs. Put an urban growth boundary on the metro. By the way urban growth boundaries haven't stopped Portland.

It's not about people moving here, it's how we are choosing to build that is the problem. I would rather have a townhouse with a shorter commute than a house with lawns and more maintenance and a longer commute that I almost spend half my weekend doing house upkeep. I think plenty others would like that too. The downside is that really isn't an option in most of the metro. There are only small pockets of that type of housing here and because of it it's overpriced.
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:46 PM
 
Location: 'greater' Buffalo, NY
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Here is a reputable news source that has an idea of what will happen in the future

https://www.theonion.com/new-study-f...eni-1819579315
great stuff as usual from The Onion
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Old 10-27-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ area
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Building townhouses and condos instead. And letting existing housing build guesthouses or casitas or ADUs. Put an urban growth boundary on the metro. By the way urban growth boundaries haven't stopped Portland.

It's not about people moving here, it's how we are choosing to build that is the problem. I would rather have a townhouse with a shorter commute than a house with lawns and more maintenance and a longer commute that I almost spend half my weekend doing house upkeep. I think plenty others would like that too. The downside is that really isn't an option in most of the metro. There are only small pockets of that type of housing here and because of it it's overpriced.
Builders build the type of housing that people want. DR Horton halted a townhome project just south of Happy Valley at I17 because they weren't selling them. They finally finished them but considering it took them a decade to do it in an area surrounded by both middle and high income jobs it shows the demand isn't there. In a much much shorter timeframe DR Horton built and sold 314, much more expensive, single family homes at Jomax and Dysart. People want to live further out and are more than willing to pay more to do it.
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