Anyone have knowledge of Section 8 in AZ? (Phoenix, Surprise: budget, debt)

[StartToday]

Originally Posted by Puddy4LyF

This was exactly what I was thinking, though I can find things I agree with both of you -- this was such a great retort -- 30,000$ is not the same today, by any stretch of the imagination.

If anyone is able to secure funding, grants, loans for ANYTHING, they should -- often times, the money is turn to waste - I, for one, think THIS is EXACTLY what welfare in this country is for -- to help someone OUT of it. (Too many times, restrictions make it so those whom use it must ALWAYS use it... almost as a means of repression.)

People should be directing their annoyance to those who aren't working out of their current situation, not to those whom are.

I agree 100% with your last statement. I am very surprised by the negative comments that I am hearing about me recieving assistance when I am also clearly working very hard to get off. I completed my Masters in a little over one year while working a full time job and a part time job. I desire more for my kids just like most other people do and I don't want them to have to depend on welfare but if they do I will not belittle them but try to help them get off. We are adjusting the best that we can. I am glad that some people can see the bigger picture and don't just come on here to grip.

[StartToday]

[quote=kfching;3803035]

They are not dumb just uneducated which is a nice word for saying their brain is not trained to read such things in length. (now that's a generalization...some without degrees do read as the same goes with the housing voucher situation). [quote]


I like that logic, " the brain is not trained". And you are also correct when you correlate that to the poster who belittled me for participating in the section 8 program.

Thanks for the advice on areas to look in.

I called Peoria section 8 office because Peoria sounded like a nice friendly, family oriented place when I read other post. The 3 -bdrm voucher is $1251 (including utilities). But the lady who answered, she was very nice and patient too, which I am not use to with the section 8 workers here in Chicago, said that I might be better off going with Maricopa county section 8 because they cover a larger area and alot of the surrounding cities in the county. The thing with section 8 is I have to ask my case worker to send my papers to one county and this can take up to 60 days because they are so slow in Chicago. So it is important that I have the papers sent to the section 8 office in the area that I want to move to or else it can be up to 90 more days for them to send it back to Chicago then Chicago send it to the new section 8 office.

So I am NOT officially looking for a house yet just the area because I won't be able to move until September 08 or later. Unless I find a job paying $50,000+ then I will no longer qualify for section 8 so all of you who are mad that I am on it should pray for me to find a decent job then I will be off? And can move tomorrow.

[StartToday]

Originally Posted by kfching

I actually have heard the same thing! Do keep in mind it is a distance from the main city and is akin to living in a small town where one must travel miles to the nearest major department and grocery stores. Do note: Phoenix metro area does not have a dependable transportation system although word is it is being worked on. Also, do know that Maricopa for this topic is not considered part of the Phoenix metro area.

Ok now I'm confused. I thought Maricopa county engulfed Phoenix and all the surrounding areas like Litchfield, Glendale, Fountain HIll, Scottsdale. Or am I missing something?

[StartToday]

Originally Posted by Great Joy

I would think the most likely places to find 3 bed homes for $1000/mo may be in areas where there have been a lot of investors who rent their homes as well as foreclosures....like Queen Creek, Maricopa, Buckeye, etc.

From what I read on City-Data these areas that you listed are not safe. I believe one poster told someone else looking in Buckeye to "run" from that area. I am already running from a bad area I don't want to run into another one thousands of miles away from family and friends.

[zonababe]

Originally Posted by StartToday

I agree 100% with your last statement. I am very surprised by the negative comments that I am hearing about me recieving assistance when I am also clearly working very hard to get off. I completed my Masters in a little over one year while working a full time job and a part time job. I desire more for my kids just like most other people do and I don't want them to have to depend on welfare but if they do I will not belittle them but try to help them get off. We are adjusting the best that we can. I am glad that some people can see the bigger picture and don't just come on here to grip.

Some how I get the feeling you will never have what you consider to be a better life by moving to AZ. Arizona is a "right to work state", you might want to look into that before making such a big move. Don't be surprised by negative comments on an Internet forum, people tend to tell you their true feelings when it comes to welfare entitlement and the like. Good luck.

[Great Joy]

Originally Posted by StartToday

From what I read on City-Data these areas that you listed are not safe. I believe one poster told someone else looking in Buckeye to "run" from that area. I am already running from a bad area I don't want to run into another one thousands of miles away from family and friends.

I'm sure some areas within those cities are safe. Others who live in those cities will be able to tell you. Since we've lived in multiple states, I personally think Phoenix is one of the more expensive places to live in the US. I think it may have something to do with AZ being right now to CA, where everything is more expensive. Sure, housing has come down but in most places it is still not cheap. Restaurants are more here than other places we've lived. Phoenix is a "driving" city, so since gas has gone up, this will eat into your budget more too here. If I were looking for a more reasonable place to live, I would consider some northern, midwestern, and southeastern states instead.

Also, I believe Mobadas was referring to the town of Maricopa vs the county of Maricopa. Like others have said on here, the town of Maricopa has more affordable housing.

[altus2006]

Originally Posted by Great Joy

Phoenix is a "driving" city, so since gas has gone up, this will eat into your budget more too here. If I were looking for a more reasonable place to live, I would consider some northern, midwestern, and southeastern states instead.

I totally agree with this statement. Also, on another thread some time ago, Ponderosa told someone in effect that if they couldn't afford a nice place to live in the area, that their kids would pay the price by having to attend sub par schools and be in rough neighborhoods.

At the time I read his essay, I thought how much I agreed with him. Phoenix is a place of have's and have nots and I have lived all over the country and have experienced a lot of the things he talks about.

This is not the place I would move to if I were on a rigid budget and had children. If a person lives in a smaller town, such as those places described by GreatJoy, at least the kids all pretty much go to similar schools and have a fighting chance of doing well. You will be handicapped already because of having to find Section 8 housing.

I don't remember if you are bilingual, but it will be highly desired and those that are will get the jobs that you are hunting. My daughter-in-law has a similar degree and she had to study Spanish and pass verbal proficiency exams to get a job in the Phoenix area.



altus2006

[Elmonellie]

Originally Posted by StartToday

Yes, or should I say negotiate the price down from $400 down to $300-$350. But the set was originally $4000 when the seller first bought it.

I asked because I was kind of surprised to see you use this term. I am assuming you don't realize what it means, so I'll explain as I think you would want to know. It is a bastardization of the old, racist remark "Jew him down". I guess in your neck of the woods it was misinterpreted and people started to say "juke" instead of "Jew".

I can honestly tell you that pretty much any Jewish person (and many gentiles) would be really put off by this remark....I'm sure you didn't realize....so maybe now you do you will think twice before saying it. I'm not into the whole political correctness thing, and you can certainly keep saying it...I just didn't think you realized what you were saying and wanted to give you the meaning of the term.

Anyway, good luck with your move.

[tasha43055]

Originally Posted by StartToday

Hi,

I have section 8 in Chicago and would like to relocate to AZ. I earned my Master in Education (not teaching) in March 08 and am looking for a better paying job ($50,000+). I anticipate staying on section 8 for at least 12 - 24 more months depending on how quickly I find employment. In the mean time I need information on renting a house in AZ.

I haven't decided on an area yet but would like some input. I am looking for a safe, family oriented place. I want some where that my kids (girl, 3 and boy, 8) can go outside and ride their bikes, play with the other kids in the community and/or walk to the neighborhood park with fearing for their safety. I want a friendly community with good schooling. (Think Gilmore s... if you have ever seen this show. I like the ambiance of that small community)

I have read through a lot of the post about AZ and it sounds like Peoria, Glendale, Gilbert, or Avondale are the safest, most family friendly areas. I like 80 -90 degree weather. Tucson?

My goal is to buy a home within 5 years.

So given this situation and the fact that I have section 8 voucher right now what area is best. I found a lot of houses on Craigslist that accepts section 8 but they are all over the map. I did a little research and think for a 3 bedroom voucher in Peoria would be a little over $1300. Is this right?

Please respond with useful information only. I am not looking for any debates about the section 8 program and it's validity. I am very greatful for the program and glad that I was able to finish school, work, and afford a decent place for my family. I Chicago and the snow so I want to move to AZ.

Thanks for all your help. If anyone have section 8 in AZ please give me some input. I have never been there but we plan on visiting for 2 week in June, July and August to get a feel for which area is best.

I am glad to hear someone else ask about section 8 because I have it too and I am trying to transfer to AZ.

[tasha43055]

[quote=StartToday;3778466]

Originally Posted by sablebaby

The section 8 in Chicago must be very lenient or something. I just read your other thread about having a class A RV to store.

I guess you also feel that lower income people should not have a car at all? We have a 1978 class A RV that was cheaper than our car that we purchased with another family member. (not that that is any of your business!) We bought it from a wealth retired State Trooper who bought it new and wanted to up grade in 2006. If you know how to find the deals you can acquire most things.

My question is what area should I focus on to move. In Chicago a lot of place that advertise that they accept Section 8 is not the best location for kids or s for that matter.

I seen some of the section 8 homes AZ has and most seemed very nice. You can go on their website and it shows some of the listings. Very nice!