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Old 11-08-2022, 01:06 PM
 
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On the main city-data.com home page under the Arizona cities category, Deer Valley is displayed as a city with a population of 186,030. I thought Deer Valley was within the Phoenix city limits, or could it be an unincorporated census-designated place with a Phoenix zip code? Or maybe it split from Phoenix into its own city?
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Old 11-08-2022, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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It's part of Phoenix. It could be that the population count is for Deer Valley Village, one of the arbitrarily defined portions of Phoenix used for planning purposes.
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Old 11-08-2022, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
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Has Deer Valley ever tried to become its own municipality?
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Old 11-08-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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Has Deer Valley ever tried to become its own municipality?
Not to my knowledge. Most portions of Phoenix were unincorporated prior to annexation, and only a few areas like Laveen and Sunnyslope had a distinct identity before being absorbed into the big city. I've never heard of any serious attempt at secession by any particular part of the city. I don't think it would be easy to do, either legally or logistically.
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Old 11-09-2022, 06:52 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Not to my knowledge. Most portions of Phoenix were unincorporated prior to annexation, and only a few areas like Laveen and Sunnyslope had a distinct identity before being absorbed into the big city. I've never heard of any serious attempt at secession by any particular part of the city. I don't think it would be easy to do, either legally or logistically.
Actually, there was a push to have Deer Valley self incorporate in the 1970s. At that time, the area was unincorporated & sparsely developed, but rapidly growing. The movement to have Deer Valley remain separate was short lived, and it was no surprise that Phoenix soon annexed Deer Valley because the city's goal was to continue to sprawl outward (and of course they wanted the tax revenue). I would have personally preferred to have Deer Valley be a separate incorporated community, along with a few other suburban "villages" that are part of Phoenix, such as Ahwatukee.
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Old 11-09-2022, 07:40 PM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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Actually, there was a push to have Deer Valley self incorporate in the 1970s. At that time, the area was unincorporated & sparsely developed, but rapidly growing. The movement to have Deer Valley remain separate was short lived, and it was no surprise that Phoenix soon annexed Deer Valley because the city's goal was to continue to sprawl outward (and of course they wanted the tax revenue). I would have personally preferred to have Deer Valley be a separate incorporated community, along with a few other suburban "villages" that are part of Phoenix, such as Ahwatukee.
Phoenix suffers significantly as a result of this. In the modern day the continued subsidization from the core to sparse areas on utilities but also the loss of neighborhood identities. Areas like Sunnyslope, Cactus, Deer Valley, Union Hills… gone. Now Phoenicians pay for utility infrastructure all the way up to Anthem instead of utilizing that money to improve taste and odor water treatment of the tap.

The reason why places like Deer Valley failed is because of some BS state law which stated that neighboring municipalities had to acknowledge the existence of the community and it took only one or so to veto it. This happened with Sunnyslope. It’s like what is going on with Taiwan and certain other areas globally.
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Old 11-10-2022, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Inside the 101
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Actually, there was a push to have Deer Valley self incorporate in the 1970s. At that time, the area was unincorporated & sparsely developed, but rapidly growing. The movement to have Deer Valley remain separate was short lived, and it was no surprise that Phoenix soon annexed Deer Valley because the city's goal was to continue to sprawl outward (and of course they wanted the tax revenue). I would have personally preferred to have Deer Valley be a separate incorporated community, along with a few other suburban "villages" that are part of Phoenix, such as Ahwatukee.
Interesting, and I agree completely. It would have been better in many ways for the areas north of the Phoenix Mountain Preserve and south of South Mountain to have become separately incorporated suburbs. The central portions of Phoenix have urban priorities that don't always align with the suburban needs of more outlying parts of the city.
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Old 11-10-2022, 07:37 PM
 
Location: East Central Phoenix
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Phoenix suffers significantly as a result of this. In the modern day the continued subsidization from the core to sparse areas on utilities but also the loss of neighborhood identities. Areas like Sunnyslope, Cactus, Deer Valley, Union Hills… gone. Now Phoenicians pay for utility infrastructure all the way up to Anthem instead of utilizing that money to improve taste and odor water treatment of the tap.

The reason why places like Deer Valley failed is because of some BS state law which stated that neighboring municipalities had to acknowledge the existence of the community and it took only one or so to veto it. This happened with Sunnyslope. It’s like what is going on with Taiwan and certain other areas globally.
Absolutely! I know we didn't agree all that much, but I think we definitely see eye to eye on this subject. People who choose to live in far flung areas like Norterra, Desert Hills, and the "village" known as Deer Valley do so because they want to be in a safe suburban area away from the main city. Nobody can blame them for this, but their neighborhoods shouldn't be within the Phoenix city limits, and they shouldn't be receiving Phoenix services. Those areas should either remain unincorporated, or they can vote to incorporate as their own separate communities.

Look at the Salt Lake City metro area as a good example. It's a lot smaller than Phoenix, but it has more suburbs that are separate towns. I think that's the way to go because each community has its own identity, and not bunched into the limits of a big city. Having all these communities annexed into Phoenix not only takes away their character, but it creates a huge, sprawling land mass, and the result is a bloated municipal government bureaucracy. Bigger government = bigger problems. I'm all for smaller, efficient government, which having separate incorporated communities would create.
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Old 11-11-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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Default Deer Valley

There is a Deer Valley area. Locals might refer to the area as "Deer Valley" but it is not an actual separate defined area.
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