$4.09 for regular gas. what do you think? (Tucson, Surprise: apartment, income)

[silverbear]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

I think a bus, and future light rail ticket will cost $1.25, not $2.50 and depending on your work situation, a month pass generally costs around 30-35 bucks.

$1.25 is for a single one-way ride without a transfer. For anything beyond a simple round trip or a one-way trip with a transfer, a $2.50 day pass is the best option for the occasional user.

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[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by silverbear

$1.25 is for a single one-way ride without a transfer. For anything beyond a simple round trip or a one-way trip with a transfer, a $2.50 day pass is the best option for the occasional user.

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You only questioned the cost of a ticket, which is $1.25. So, say you take the bus, or LR to work and home, if you forget to buy an "all day ticket" it will still cost you the same...$2.50. But if you take the bus, you'd probably need to transfer at least once, I'm not sure of this however.

[silverbear]

If you make a roundtrip without any transfers, your total cost would be $2.50, the same as a day pass. If your trip each way involves a transfer, however, your total a la carte cost would be $5, making a day pass a far more economical option. Fortunately, day passes are sold right on board the buses so it can be a spur-of-the-moment purchase.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by silverbear

If you make a roundtrip without any transfers, your total cost would be $2.50, the same as a day pass. If your trip each way involves a transfer, however, your total a la carte cost would be $5, making a day pass a far more economical option. Fortunately, day passes are sold right on board the buses so it can be a spur-of-the-moment purchase.

Right, so basically buy a day pass if you plan on muliple transfers, but if you only make roundtrips then you're fine. But still, a ticket is $1.25. Fortunately, when I start using the LR, I won't have to worry about transfers.

[Synergy38]

Still cheaper than Canada.. and in Alberta the entire economy is based on Oil.

[artvandelay]

Better get a gas-cap lock. Thieves are a crafty bunch with quick adaptation skills. Siphoning stories will be all over the news by end of year.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

It is interesting to read about the cost of gas and the reasons behind why gas is so high. Turns out that it doesn't cost much more than it does to get oil out of the ground. A good story by Max Whitmore explains what the oil companies are doing and why the increase in price. You can find the article at "Income Investing With Max Whitmore" at Moneynews.com His point was that many people are developing alternatives to the problem and investors and oil industry insiders alike are trying to cash out scaring us to think that the supply is drying up. At the same time we have oil reserves that have been found that will last the next 300 years at our current consumption. Remember we have only been removing oil from the ground since the late 1800's. What I find interesting is that Cuba and China have come to an agreement to drill in the Gulf of Mexico but we in the USA are being told to stop because of environmental concerns. If China has an issue and spills oil chances are that will end up on our shores. You can't tell them that they can't drill.

We are currently paying $4.79 for gas in my part of California.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Does the bus go where you want to go? The same question with the light rail. I will be living in Surprise. Where are the busses there? In the heat do you plan on walking a mile to a bus stop and waiting in the heat for it? My thoughts are that most people will still take there car.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by SOON2BNSURPRISE

Does the bus go where you want to go? The same question with the light rail. I will be living in Surprise. Where are the busses there? In the heat do you plan on walking a mile to a bus stop and waiting in the heat for it? My thoughts are that most people will still take there car.

Oh yes, light rail goes from central phoenix to Tempe, the most urbanized and densely populated areas of the Valley. Stops for the LR are close to where dense pockets of businesses and housing are and will be developed. I only have to walk 6 blocks (which isn't even .25 miles), which takes about 5 minutes if walking with a purpose or 10 if I'm strolling, to the station and will do so in the heat because this is Phoenix (and I chose to live somewhere hot) and because I'm not lazy. Surprise is a far flung suburban region and isn't very dense at all, those who chose to live that far must rely on their vehicles...much like any other city. Live too far to use mass transit, then you must drive. I believe there are rapid bus lines that serve that area however. So you can park at a regional Park and Ride and take the express to downtown.

[61scout80]

Originally Posted by Ponderosa

It's the best thing that has happened to this country in a long time as far as energy goes, but I'm afraid $4 is still not high enough. We finally ended our affair with SUVs and there are many alternative energy initiatives and ideas going forward. We MUST get away from foreign oil and this price increase, though speculative to the core, has accelerated the inevitable and maybe helped us to avoid a much worse scenario down the road.

Ya, its great for this country. My parents, living in the north east on a fairly fixed income kept their home at 50 degrees last winter because they couldn't afford heating oil, or to install a different heating system. As of today the heating oil prices have doubled since last winter.