I couldn't survive here (Phoenix, Tempe: home, buy, construction)

[nebulous1]

I think as long as you have a good job, you can live anywhere.

[KoryO]

I'd just love to see the OP's reaction when he/she finds out that the airport shut down once in the 90's because the temperature was too high (122 degrees, baby!!)

That's right, it was too hot for the planes to take off safely.

But it shouldn't happen again, now that they have had the charts they use to figure out weight/fuel ratios translated from Arabic.....

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

I think as long as you have a good job, you can live anywhere.

I hear that, a good job makes anyplace seem like paridise

[ArizonaBear]

Originally Posted by KoryO

I'd just love to see the OP's reaction when he/she finds out that the airport shut down once in the 90's because the temperature was too high (122 degrees, baby!!)

That's right, it was too hot for the planes to take off safely.

But it shouldn't happen again, now that they have had the charts they use to figure out weight/fuel ratios translated from Arabic.....

Actually; the problem was the planes were not certified for those hot conditions......not that they were physically unable to lift off the tarmac. So, better not to chance it.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Actually; the problem was the planes were not certified for those hot conditions......not that they were physically unable to lift off the tarmac. So, better not to chance it.

Exactly, do you think people have trouble leaving Dubai and other Middle Eastern cities when the average summer time highs are over 130 degrees? Don't think so...also, the OP should know that the 122 degree mark was recorded in the hottest possible spot in Phoenix. The airport, which is surrounded by concrete, asphalt, and miles of tarmac. The hottest temperature recorded downtown, that SAME day was 114. 114 degrees is the record temperature reached Downtown.




Phoenix, AZ (85003) Weather Facts

• The average warmest month is July.

• The highest recorded temperature was 114°F in 1990.

• The average coolest month is January.

• The lowest recorded temperature was 12°F in 1963.

• The maximum average precipitation occurs in March.

Average Weather for Phoenix, AZ - Temperature and Precipitation

[KoryO]

Actually, fcorrales80 and ArizonaBear, nope. Planes can take it....at least if they are in normal operating shape.

A year or two later it again hit over 120 and Sky Harbor didn't shut down. The planes kept flying that time.

And before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about....my dad was a mechanic for Northwest Airlines, stationed in Phoenix. His friends were scrambling to find the tables necessary to calculate weight/fuel ratios for that heat (120 plus), and the only ones that anyone at any airline could find at that time were written in Arabic, for airlines like Saudia. This was well before the first Gulf War, and nobody ever thought they would have to worry about that kind of excessive heat anywhere other than the Middle East.

(You think they ground the planes for months at a time there? I don't think so....and they don't build Boeings/Airbuses to different tolerances for the Middle East any more than planes are built differently for Minnesota/Russian winters......)

[ITChick]

Originally Posted by KoryO

I'd just love to see the OP's reaction when he/she finds out that the airport shut down once in the 90's because the temperature was too high (122 degrees, baby!!)

That's right, it was too hot for the planes to take off safely.

But it shouldn't happen again, now that they have had the charts they use to figure out weight/fuel ratios translated from Arabic.....

Just to be fair, in many other major cities, Airplanes are forced to not take off if weather conditions are not favorable. Where I live in Chicago, if there is too much snow or slick conditions on the runway, the flights are canceled or delayed until the weather conditions resolve to a safer flying situation.

If the OP can't handle a few weather disturbances, then they will not have many choices as all places have some type of issue (too cold, too hot, too rainy, hurricanes, tornadoes, lots of snow, etc.).

[ITChick]

Originally Posted by nebulous1

I think as long as you have a good job, you can live anywhere.

I think I agree with that, as one can enjoy a better lifestyle from it.

You can also be miserable even in what is considered to be "the best place to live in", if your life is not what you want it to be.

[Beena]

Bahaa!! ItChick is right on. Phoenix airport gets shut down once in 20 years. Isn't that like a weekly occurrence in Chicago, Denver, New York?

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by KoryO

Actually, fcorrales80 and ArizonaBear, nope. Planes can take it....at least if they are in normal operating shape.

A year or two later it again hit over 120 and Sky Harbor didn't shut down. The planes kept flying that time.

And before you tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about....my dad was a mechanic for Northwest Airlines, stationed in Phoenix. His friends were scrambling to find the tables necessary to calculate weight/fuel ratios for that heat (120 plus), and the only ones that anyone at any airline could find at that time were written in Arabic, for airlines like Saudia. This was well before the first Gulf War, and nobody ever thought they would have to worry about that kind of excessive heat anywhere other than the Middle East.

(You think they ground the planes for months at a time there? I don't think so....and they don't build Boeings/Airbuses to different tolerances for the Middle East any more than planes are built differently for Minnesota/Russian winters......)

I just learned something, thanks. Thats a pretty good point about airlines in the Middle East. I was there in Gulf War 1 and it gets hotter there in my opinion than anywhere on the planet. No science to back that up by the way.

I think Airport delays due to weather is just another thing we don't have to worry about here in the Valley.

It was just 4 months ago, I was stuck in a terrible snow storm in New Mexico while moving from Denver to here. I don't ever want to drive over the white stuff again.

The town I moved from just got destroyed for the most part by a 9 tornatoes last month. Boy am I glad to be here with nothing to ***** about but the heat. Like someone said, if you have a good job, you can live anywhere.