I couldn't survive here (Phoenix, Tucson: tree, locations, weather)

[sberdrow]

Originally Posted by ArizonaBear

Never been there; but word has it that the 'Texas Hill Country' is gorgeous.

nice for Texas, but generally just OK by Arizonia standards. I think the Desert of AZ, Sedona and the beautiful pine forests makes AZ one of the most beautiful states in the USA.

Hill Country is just an area where the ground is not flat as a pancake covered with bushes and short trees. I think highest peak in hill country is around 900 ft. So If I were you guys, I would not book the flight.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by miamiman

I think something is terribly wrong with this temperature gauge. Unless you live on some invisible 4,000 foot mountain in Phoenix, there is no way that the warmest recorded temperature in 85003 is 114 degrees.

There is not NEARLY enough greenery downtown to keep the temperature down that much. If so, you would see even more striking differences in cities back east between the airport and the downtown location, which you don't.

124 sounds a lot more accurate. Especially seeing as that's the same year it reached 122 at Sky Harbor.

114 was the hottest temperature recorded downtown in 85003. You don't have to believe it, but that is what the facts state. Kind of like you don't have to believe the world is round, but it will continue to be round either way. My source is weather.com...and the National Weather Services recorded this temp.

Phoenix, AZ (85003) Weather Facts

• On average, the warmest month is July.

• The highest recorded temperature was 114°F in 1990.

• On average, the coolest month is January.

• The lowest recorded temperature was 12°F in 1963.

• The most precipitation on average occurs in March.

Average Weather for Phoenix, AZ - Temperature and Precipitation

[factfinder]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

114 was the hottest temperature recorded downtown in 85003. You don't have to believe it, but that is what the facts state. Kind of like you don't have to believe the world is round, but it will continue to be round either way. My source is weather.com...and the National Weather Services recorded this temp.

Phoenix, AZ (85003) Weather Facts

• On average, the warmest month is July.

• The highest recorded temperature was 114°F in 1990.

• On average, the coolest month is January.

• The lowest recorded temperature was 12°F in 1963.

• The most precipitation on average occurs in March.

Average Weather for Phoenix, AZ - Temperature and Precipitation

"On June 26, 1990, the temperature reached an all-time recorded high of 122°F (50°C)."

source: "Phoenix 100 Degree Temperature Facts." National Weather Service - Phoenix. Retrieved on December 15, 2006.

see http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/psr/general/...hp?page=100deg for the numbers. brought to you by the national weather service.

your findings only pertain to the specific zip code you entered, which may not be where temperatures are as frequently recorded.

next.

[ITChick]

Originally Posted by sberdrow

agree, except where is Texas beautiful?

LOL! Austin?

[miamiman]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

114 was the hottest temperature recorded downtown in 85003. You don't have to believe it, but that is what the facts state. Kind of like you don't have to believe the world is round, but it will continue to be round either way. My source is weather.com...and the National Weather Services recorded this temp.

Phoenix, AZ (85003) Weather Facts

• On average, the warmest month is July.

• The highest recorded temperature was 114°F in 1990.

• On average, the coolest month is January.

• The lowest recorded temperature was 12°F in 1963.

• The most precipitation on average occurs in March.

Average Weather for Phoenix, AZ - Temperature and Precipitation

The Weather Channel is notoriously inaccurate. Especially with those sort of measurements. If you do not know where the temperature gauge that they are using is specifically using, I won't take it as fact. Sorry. The most accurate temperature gauges are the ones in shelters specifically meant for measuring temperature.

I refuse to believe the highest temperature anywhere in Phoenix was 114 degrees. I have lived in North Scottsdale for more than a year, and I have seen temperatures over 114 at least 3 or 4 times.

[Ezekiel]

Yeah, just gonna throw out there that I have been in 115 and over several times in my 11 years in the greater Phoenix metropolitan area (1991-2002). I remember a 117 day, and I remember a hotter day when I moved there but that might be fantasy.

[ABQSunseeker]

Factfinder you're right. It was 122 in 1990, I was in Phoenix at the time and I remember it well. Nearly every source since then has indicated that it was the record. Facts are facts no matter what some people want to persist in believing....

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by factfinder

"On June 26, 1990, the temperature reached an all-time recorded high of 122°F (50°C)."

source: "Phoenix 100 Degree Temperature Facts." National Weather Service - Phoenix. Retrieved on December 15, 2006.

see National Weather Service - NWS Phoenix for the numbers. brought to you by the national weather service.

your findings only pertain to the specific zip code you entered, which may not be where temperatures are as frequently recorded.

next.

wow, you people don't read posts do you. I was arguing for downtown Phoenix, not the entire city. The 122 degree mark was recorded at Sky Harbor, the HOTTEST location in the city of Phoenix because of its physical properties. IT is completely, and entirely paved.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by miamiman

The Weather Channel is notoriously inaccurate. Especially with those sort of measurements. If you do not know where the temperature gauge that they are using is specifically using, I won't take it as fact. Sorry. The most accurate temperature gauges are the ones in shelters specifically meant for measuring temperature.

I refuse to believe the highest temperature anywhere in Phoenix was 114 degrees. I have lived in North Scottsdale for more than a year, and I have seen temperatures over 114 at least 3 or 4 times.

LOL! The weather channel may be inaccurate for weather to occur, but its not inaccuate for reporting on weather that has already occured, especially since their past data must match the NWS whose records are the most accurate. And, again, I'm arguing for a specific area of Phoenix which is among the most green and thickly landscaped area of the Valley.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by ABQSunseeker

Factfinder you're right. It was 122 in 1990, I was in Phoenix at the time and I remember it well. Nearly every source since then has indicated that it was the record. Facts are facts no matter what some people want to persist in believing....

Hmmm, some people need to learn what other people are referring to before jumping on a bandwagon. Re-read the entire thread, then you'll understand what we were talking about.