5 phrases to describe Phoenix (and dont say dry heat) (Glendale: 2010, apartment complex)

[twixcookie]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Like these:
1. Willo Historic District, Phoenix, Central, Downtown, Home Tour, Community
2. Encanto-Palmcroft | Historic Preservation Association
3. Downtown Phoenix Arizona Homes - Verrado
4. Estrella by Newland Communities. Discover Your Perfect Sonoran Home.
5. http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoen...otos-time.html

There are many more community in Peoria, North Phoenix, Chandler, Gilbert, and Southwest Phoenix where builders have moved away from the "traditional" cookie-cutter house. I'm sure many on this forum can point out those locations. Most Cape Cod/Colonial/Victorian/Craftsman homes in ANY city are usually historic, thats the same for Phoenix except that builders are now taking a page from history in new home design. However, cookie-cutter houses are in every metro area...they just happen to look different in the mid-west, south, and east as compared to Phoenix (and for good reason). Imagine if houses in Phoenix had black roofing instead of tiles on top of their houses, vinyl siding, etc.

I disagree, back east, there are a lot of homes being built that are colonial or victorian, condos, too, emulating the past designs.

[CheyDee]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Most Cape Cod/Colonial/Victorian/Craftsman homes in ANY city are usually historic...

I disagree with you here. Take the NYC metro area, for example. While it does indeed have its fair share of historic homes, the majority of Cape Cods/Colonials/Victorians et al there are not historic homes. Additionally, you could drive many, many miles and not find one single cookie cutter neighborhood. One could drive though Dallas too and find plenty of home diversity, having nothing to do with historic homes.

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by CheyDee

I disagree with you here. Take the NYC metro area, for example. While it does indeed have its fair share of historic homes, the majority of Cape Cods/Colonials/Victorians et al there are not historic homes. Additionally, you could drive many, many miles and not find one single cookie cutter neighborhood. One could drive though Dallas too and find plenty of home diversity, having nothing to do with historic homes.

Having lived in these areas, I would call your bluff, here is a typcial east coast new cookie cutter. Most of the homes around NYC are not new. Like you said, one would have to drive MILES AND MILES from that city to find NEWER subdivisions that are sprawling like Phoenix.:
Newton in Bozman Farms Estates Series
All these homes look the same to me and the "brick" is faux. Scroll through each "varying" model and they all have the same cookie cutter feel.

[fcorrales80]

Here are five more Phoenix phrases:
1. Transplants complaining about the "heat" (Did they not read about the desert?)
2. Transplants complaining about tile roofs and stucco (Should they be black single and vinyl? Imagine the electric bills then)
3. Transplants complaining about the "crime" (and most are from the midwest where most of the crime filled cities are. Phoenix isn't even in the top 25 most dangerous metro areas and Gilbert and Surprise are two of America's safest cities.)
4. Transplants complaining about the "traffic" (It isn't that bad at all.)
5. Transplants complaining about lack of culture (Yet live in an area that was recently a field or open desert and now a brand new "city." How about you live in an established neighborhood?)

[ibarrio]

Transplants complaining about the "traffic" (It isn't that bad at all.)

I left for yesterday's D-Backs Cubs game around 5ish. I was parked, had picked up my tickets, was in the stadium and in my seats by 6:20....All this Coming from Surprise...With three kids in tow...and traffic is bad why? I didn't hit any slow downs or bumper to bumper traffic at all.

[HX_Guy]

Yep...I drove out of downtown yesterday at around 4:45 all up the I-17 to Happy Valley Rd and never got under 40 MPH, I don't know about you...but that's damn good for rush hour traffic.

[ZonyPony]

"5 phrases to describe Phoenix (and dont say dry heat)"


1. Death Valley II

2. Where the CapitOlists live.

3. Where Legend City USED to be...

4. Where most people are packed-and-stacked in amongst the freeways and golf courses in severely overpriced, ranch-style, tract-type, earth-toned, spanish-tiled sub-divided housing (complete with two HUMMER-sized garages) which are nestled inside an obligatory gated community, and are dictated to by a police-state known as an HOA.

5. Where Alice Cooper makes TV commercials.

[CheyDee]

Originally Posted by fcorrales80

Having lived in these areas, I would call your bluff, here is a typcial east coast new cookie cutter. Most of the homes around NYC are not new. Like you said, one would have to drive MILES AND MILES from that city to find NEWER subdivisions that are sprawling like Phoenix.:
Newton in Bozman Farms Estates Series
All these homes look the same to me and the "brick" is faux. Scroll through each "varying" model and they all have the same cookie cutter feel.

Who is bluffing??? Please allow me be the first to enlighten you: Wylie, TX is NOT on the east coast. (Your link goes to a development there.) It is NOT representative of the east coast and is not even representative of Dallas. I also did not say anything about "new".

Here are some houses currently for sale in Dallas. They are not cookie cutter at all!




Zip: 75205



Zip: 75205




Zip: 75205

These are houses in Plano, a Dallas suburb. (Not far from Wylie, btw.) Also not cookie cutter:



Zip: 75074




Zip: 75074




Zip: 75074



Zip: 75074



Here are a couple of houses in two different sections of NY. One section is in NYC proper, the other is of one of NY's burbs. They are also not cookie cutter.



Zip: 11934




Zip: 11934



NYC




NYC

Lastly, since you mentioned "new", here are some new houses in NYC:

[fcorrales80]

Originally Posted by CheyDee

Who is bluffing??? Please allow me be the first to enlighten you: Wylie, TX is NOT on the east coast. (Your link goes to a development there.) It is NOT representative of the east coast and is not even representative of Dallas. I also did not say anything about "new"...

We were talking about NEW subdivisions. Older Phoenix neighborhoods are NOT cuttie cutter. I can post a load of pictures as well of Phoenix neighborhoods before 1980's that are distinctive. However, if you look at new homes, by the way YOU also mentioned new homes and that is what I called your bluff on, they are cookie cutter in every region. Sorry, but I've seen it for myself. I posted a link to a suburban area of Dallas, if you look at something you said earlier, you mentioned the diverse new housing of Dallas, I posted that link to show that is far from the truth.

[PinkVelvet]

Originally Posted by mjbdpt09

1. Urban sprawl
2. Strip mall
3. Sports town
4. Big city with small town feel
5. Residential areas

Let me see (not necessarily in order)...

1. High crime; the Phoenix metropolitan area, and not just the City of Phoenix, is in the top-25 most dangerous in the US, and of all cities over 3 million people, only 3 or 4 or worse.
2. Polluted and dusty.
3. Anti-urban; socially, geographically, and architecturally.
4. Aesthetically unattractive; such as the massive amount of strip malls, apartment complexes, new construction, and lack of color.
5. Pretentious.
6. Car (and oil) reliant; due to the suburban sprawl, lack of an urban center, and lack of adequate public transportation.
7. Traffic nightmare; due to the suburban sprawl, lack of an urban center, and lack of adequate public transportation.
8. Crystal meth capital; where an astonishing one in six people in Phoenix have tried the drug, and thousands are addicted.
9. Housing crisis; where the recent boom and subsequent crash will cripple the area in a number of different ways for years.
10. Unbearable heat; and the associated problems such as the heavy reliance on electricity for cooling, lack of adequate and quality of water, and the temper it creates in many residents.

Sorry, that was supposed to be only five, but I got on a roll. I could continue, but I'll leave it there.