Sheriff Joe (Maricopa: rent, hotel, resort)

[cxray]

Originally Posted by sindey

Most of the inmates are awaiting trial and NOT yet sentenced.
The sheriffs return inmate rate is NO different than any other large city,meaning his cruel tactics do not work.
Yes most people love him, they ignore the deaths, the lawsuit payouts and the fact that most who work for him can't stand him. The people believe what they read in the papers and see on tv.
If it happens to them, they will change there minds.

Do you have any statistics to back up your statements regarding the inmate return rate versus other cities because I've heard otherwise. If you are going to make a claim like that then it's your responsibility to provide some evidence to support it. From personal experience, I know his cruel tactics work. My buddy who was never afraid to get a DUI completely changed after he spent only one night in tent city. If he was living in some other state, he would have just had to pay a fine which would done nothing to deter him.

[Bummer]

Originally Posted by cxray

I'm a liberal Democrat and I applaud Joe Arpaio. Yes, he is a total redneck and a bully but at least he does his job. I too had a friend that went to tent city for a DUI and he was scared $#%#$ after he got out. When I was in college, I knew people who got DUI's and it wasn't a big deal. They usually just paid a fine and got a slap on their wrist. They never served jail time. They were never scared or deterred from driving while under the influence. Maybe if they spent some time in tent city, they would have thought otherwise.

This is the reason people of all political groups love Sherrif Joe. It's because he actually acts and that is a refreshing change when most sherrifs are all talk.

Absolutely, Cxray!

As I have posted before . . . the entire State, not to mention the Country, would be a better place if we had more Sheriff Joes!

[sindey]

Originally Posted by cxray

Do you have any statistics to back up your statements regarding the inmate return rate versus other cities because I've heard otherwise. If you are going to make a claim like that then it's your responsibility to provide some evidence to support it. From personal experience, I know his cruel tactics work. My buddy who was never afraid to get a DUI completely changed after he spent only one night in tent city. If he was living in some other state, he would have just had to pay a fine which would done nothing to deter him.

Did you happen to read the Arizona Republic today?
Ya know the article about sheriff publicity hound ? it will tell you in that article.
OK so your buddy will never do wrong again, what if you were stopped for looking like someone the police were looking for and had to spend time in jail would you appreciated being treated to sheriff joes tactics?
How about the people who died in his jails? How do you think their families feel?
And for your information you do not have to "just pay a fine in other states"
As for you being a liberal Democrat maybe you should change your party affiliation because democrats do not care for fascism.

[ibarrio]

$#%#$ after he got out. When I was in college, I knew people who got DUI's and it wasn't a big deal.

How long ago where you in college? DWI is a serious crime now across the Nation...not just in Arizona. Meaning you will get Jail time pretty much every where when you get caught drinking and Driving.

I find ti funny that people think Joe is saving the tax payers money when his budget has increased threefold, to $288 million. And the money isn't going into the pockets of the officers...as they are some of the lowest paid officers around.

The county has spent an insane amount in settlements...

The new slogan should be...Get Arrested...Go to tent city...Come out rich...

[yeah_right]

Originally Posted by tesswin

How bad is the homeless situation in the Tempe & Phx area?

I deal with our homeless (southwest Florida) every day that I work. This county does not have a homeless ordinance like the surrounding counties have put into effect. Which means, of course, they have all migrated to the county I currently live in. They hang out on sidewalks drinking beer (of course we don't have an open container ordinance either), they hang their laundry up to dry on ropes between trees on the side of our main highway (US 41), they panhandle in the median and knock on car windows for money, and they harass shoppers at grocery stores. Most of our homeless are aggressive white males and they harass single women constantly. Ugh!

It will take me two pages to rant about the homeless - I have nothing good to say out the homeless in this area. While I am sure there are homeless families (innocently torn asunder by society - <sarcasm at its best, folks>) out there, I have not met them. In fact, I have not met anyone homeless who did not want to be homeless. Alas, I digress.

Soooo, how bad is the homeless situation there? What has Sheriff Joe done to correct that, if anything? Thanks!

I am so sorry that you feel the way you do about the homeless. All homeless people don't drink beer, hang out on the sidewalk and knock on car windows for money and it's certainly been a while since I've seen one harass shoppers at the grocery store. I believe you are talking about addicts, arent you? Not homeless. They are only homeless as another side effect of their addictions. Drug addiction is another aspect I am passionate about. If everyone uneducated screamer would stop, read and learn, we could solve these problems. And if Sheriff Joe would stop grandstanding, put 1/2 as much energy arresting the dealers as he does the addicts (who I feel he is partly responsible for making because of his inaction), who knows.....maybe we could lick this problem?
Being homeless means you have no place to sleep. Can you even imagine what it is like to live on the street with no place to call home? Really....think about it.....and I'm not talking about drugs or alcohol addicted persons here...I'm talking about "The Homeless" for whatever reason.

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

Originally Posted by irwin

What advice would Ole' Joe give other states?

How to kill inmates under your control?
How to torture inmates?
How to lose the county millions of dollars over lawsuits from your antics?
How to drive your crime rate to one of the worst in the country?
How to be condemned by international human rights groups?
How to have European countries refuse to extradite suspects to your jurisdiction because of the Saudi Aradbian conditions and torture?

Yea, he's such a great guy.

He's an embarrassment and the fact that he seems to be so popular here is telling on the kind of people who populate this sprawling wasteland. May can't come soon enough for me!!

Having someone punish those that are commititing crime is not something that you seem to like. Around where I am from the inmates are allowed to watch TV,they can make Phone calls, listen to music, watch movies, play basketball, other sports, Sounds like a great place to live. I am not sure why anyone would want to leave. Some inmates can have there girl friends, wives, or what ever come over for "congical visits". Many of the peolpe that I know think that the system needs to be overhauled. Someone like Sherriff Joe would be the person to do that. I don't know if he is doing his job or not. Maybe citizens like yourself aren't allowing the department to get the job done. Does the Sherrifs department have the resourses to do the job that they were hired to do? Maybe not if Sherriff Joe has to place the inmates in Desert Storm like conditions. Our troops are living in similar conditions. Are you appalled by that as well? They were sent to Iraq to get a job done and many people complain. Our own polititians want to take support away. That is crazy. Does the Sherriff department even manage the crime in the city of Phoenix? I thought that the city had its own Police Department. If that is the case does Sherriff Joe even have jurusdiction of what takes place in the city of Phoenix? Maybe the residents there need to improve there Police force and add more officers. That will take more money though. May have to place more inmates in tents in the blazing heat. That is so terrible. But then guess what they are criminals and living in Maricopa county they should know that if you do the crime then you may end up living in a tent in 115 degree heat.

By the way this is the United States of America. We could care less about what the world thinks of us. Those international countries that you speak of have attrocities that are far worse than we have. In Iraq Suddam used to murder his people just for fun. Most countries have slavery of some kind. It is far worse to be in prisson in any nation other that the USA. The fact is that we in this country don't make our policy from what others say. The Executive Branch of Government doesn't consult with the heads of state from other nations on what path the country should take. We are a soverighn nation and are under no other power or influence. The State of Arizona and Maricopa county also are allowed to follow certain federal laws and are able to persue punishment of criminals in any way they see fit that gets the job done. As far as I can see Sherriff Joe is doing a fine job.

[Greatday]

Joe is doing a great job -

One of the ancillary things he does is taking abused and abandoned animals (dogs) into the jail and have inmates (who volunteer) take care of them and get the animals back into healthy condition. He did this again this past week with some 30+ Dalmatians who had not had food or water and were left in squalor for some time - inmates are getting to do good things

[Bummer]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Joe is doing a great job -

One of the ancillary things he does is taking abused and abandoned animals (dogs) into the jail and have inmates (who volunteer) take care of them and get the animals back into healthy condition. He did this again this past week with some 30+ Dalmatians who had not had food or water and were left in squalor for some time - inmates are getting to do good things

Great point, Greatday

Anyone putting the well being of a helpless ANIMAL over that of a common THUG gets my vote every time! ! ! ! !

[sindey]

Originally Posted by Greatday

Joe is doing a great job -

One of the ancillary things he does is taking abused and abandoned animals (dogs) into the jail and have inmates (who volunteer) take care of them and get the animals back into healthy condition. He did this again this past week with some 30+ Dalmatians who had not had food or water and were left in squalor for some time - inmates are getting to do good things

There was also a 41 yr.old person arrested yesterday, handcuffed and had his feet bound that didn't make it to the jail before he died. That is the 6th person this yr. in custody that has died.

[sindey]

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Our troops are living in similar conditions. Are you appalled by that as well? They were sent to Iraq to get a job done and many people complain.

I am appalled that we have hired private companys such as Blackwater that earn almost a thousand dollars a day of taxpayer money compared to our troops.

But then guess what they are criminals and living in Maricopa county they should know that if you do the crime then you may end up living in a tent in 115 degree heat.

Most of them are not sentenced yet, what happened to "innocent until proven quilty?"

The State of Arizona and Maricopa county also are allowed to follow certain federal laws and are able to persue punishment of criminals in any way they see fit that gets the job done.

WHAT???? anyway They see fit? ewww that scares me.Yesterday another prisoner died in custody.

As far as I can see Sherriff Joe is doing a fine job.

Sheriff Joe is a manipulating publicity hound, liar.