07-24-2007, 07:55 PM
Location: Southern Arizona
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ILLEGALS: NOT HIS JOB.
Interesting theory, Eddy
07-24-2007, 11:08 PM
Location: In the desert
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Bummer
Interesting theory, Eddy
Bummer your right about ALL laws being enforced by all law agencies.
However it is the Federal Goverment who should have been stopping illegal entry into this country in the first place.
Sheriff Joe hasn't saved this county any money at all,in fact he has cost
more money in paid lawsuits than any other sheriff in the country.
He also says it isn't racial profiling to ask for immigration status ,but
I'll bet money it won't be white people asked to prove their citizenship.
Sheriff Joe is emotionally maladjusted to say the least & the people who
love what he does are complicite & fascist sympathizers.
07-26-2007, 08:05 AM
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You are wrong about all laws being enforced by all types of law enforcement agencies. I was in law enforcement for 25 years and each type of enforcement agency has specific work to do and there are reasons for it. For an example, when being drunk in public was decriminalized the person could no longer be charged with a crime and locked up. They have to be transported to a detox center. This means that if a detox center is an hour away two officers have to take the person there which leaves the department two officers short for two hours. Sometimes this puts the department in such a bind that a decision has to be made whether two off-duty officers should be awakened at 2 AM and ordered in. When I worked, if a female was picked up that either broke the law or was wanted on a warrant, that person would have to be transported to a female lock-up that was 1-1/2 hours away (one way). We couldn't leave the department short two people for all that time. If no female officer was working that shift, one had to be called in. That means a lot of overtime money was used. The taxpayers never want to pay the police enough, they always want the police budget to be cut short. Everyone grumbles when taxes goes up. When I worked the city we had all we could handle and there is no way that we could have taken on more enforcement like arresting illegals, etc. What sounds good on paper doesn't work in the real world, I know because I worked it in the capacity of a shift Sergeant for 25 years. You really have to work the job to fully understand it. In this day and age the police are buried in paperwork and burdened by crime and confined by a budget. It would be great if the public would allow enough people to be hired to handle everything, but this is just not the case.
07-26-2007, 08:48 AM
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Azloafer, you are right! We expect so much from our police officers and our teachers, yet nobody wants to pay for their expectations!
People need to be more educated about the taxes they pay), vote for where they go. 1/2 the people don't even realize that taxes equate income for our most important jobs. We gladly use up the services, and want to control how they do their job but we won't pay for it! I have talked to people who want their kids teachers to be responsible for everything and anything with their children (most of which is the parents job anyway), but hate to pay their taxes and complain about it in the same breath! No wonder we have a lack of teachers and police officers. Good people who would like to enter both these professions can't because they won't make enough money to support their family. How sad! We will pay all this money to load up our houses with expensive crap then expect a police officer to protect it all for peanuts! Our priorities suck! Especially out west, in the Northeast officers and teachers get paid a lot more than AZ. But, what's funny is people complain about those taxes constantly. On the MA forum they refer to their state as taxachsetts. It's to bad we have created such a spoiled America. We expect the most out of people we pay so little. If Sherif Joe would have gone on t.v. requesting higher wages for people in law enforcement instead of telling everyone he was going to save the people tax money on pink undies and green bologna, I would have more respect for the man. He's just trying to get re-elected. And a posse?
, while cheaper than an officer, not nearly as good and a little scary. He works for old rich people, not officers. We may like the "idea" of cheap, funny and mean, but respect no, and he has taken the respect down for the whole system out here, even the officers. It's sad. It's sad that it works out here in AZ. He'd a bin kicked to the curb in Mass!
07-26-2007, 09:09 AM
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I can't comment on Sheriff Joe because I have never met the man and I don't know enough about him. The newpaper, from my experience, can make or break a person. When I worked, there were occasions where I would read a story about a police arrest and not even know it was about me until I saw my name in the story. The story was so changed that I didn't it recognize it. This happens all the time. By the way, I was a sergeant back in Wisconsin. I didn't mean to imply that I worked here in Arizona. I retired here to get away from the harsh winters. I was injured in a riot and had to retire. I have had three back surgeries as a result. The third one failed and because of all the metal fixtures in my back I cannot have any more. Thanks for your post, I appreciate the kind words.
07-26-2007, 10:41 AM
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AZ LOAFER I stand corrected about officers doing any job that comes before them,you are absolutly right & I should have realized that before I posted my reply. I was married to a police officer for 19 yrs. in Philadelphia,Pa before he was shot & killed.
I can talk about Sheriff Joe however & the truth is he is not really after law breakers,just CERTAIN lawbreakers.
He is Barney Fife with more guns & a bad temper.
The man is a fascist,a publicity hound,& as I said before mentally unstable.
07-26-2007, 12:41 PM
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SINDEY,
07-26-2007, 02:39 PM
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SINDEY,
Live here long enough and you'll get to know him, he makes speeches on T.V. quite a bit. The media does skew things, he does do 1/2 of it himself though. He gave a big speech for us all about the underwear. People do confuse the police officer with Sheriff Joe though, laugh and make comments about catching the guy and putting pink undies on him. Meanwhile the cop is pursuing a dangerous guy selling drugs, putting him through a chase when it's a 115 out and the pavement gives you 3rd degree burns. When I saw this my first thought was, god, can't you take this seriously. I just wonder if the police officers like him here or not? If there's any out there let me know.
07-26-2007, 04:34 PM
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Uhhh ... don't break the law and you don't have to worry about Ole Joe.
07-26-2007, 09:09 PM
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I spend a year living in the Valley and it seemed like everyone had a very strong opinion about him.
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Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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Bummer your right about ALL laws being enforced by all law agencies.
People need to be more educated about the taxes they pay), vote for where they go. 1/2 the people don't even realize that taxes equate income for our most important jobs. We gladly use up the services, and want to control how they do their job but we won't pay for it! I have talked to people who want their kids teachers to be responsible for everything and anything with their children (most of which is the parents job anyway), but hate to pay their taxes and complain about it in the same breath! No wonder we have a lack of teachers and police officers. Good people who would like to enter both these professions can't because they won't make enough money to support their family. How sad! We will pay all this money to load up our houses with expensive crap then expect a police officer to protect it all for peanuts! Our priorities suck! Especially out west, in the Northeast officers and teachers get paid a lot more than AZ. But, what's funny is people complain about those taxes constantly. On the MA forum they refer to their state as taxachsetts. It's to bad we have created such a spoiled America. We expect the most out of people we pay so little. If Sherif Joe would have gone on t.v. requesting higher wages for people in law enforcement instead of telling everyone he was going to save the people tax money on pink undies and green bologna, I would have more respect for the man. He's just trying to get re-elected. And a posse?
, while cheaper than an officer, not nearly as good and a little scary. He works for old rich people, not officers. We may like the "idea" of cheap, funny and mean, but respect no, and he has taken the respect down for the whole system out here, even the officers. It's sad. It's sad that it works out here in AZ. He'd a bin kicked to the curb in Mass!
