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Old 09-20-2008, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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I don't think Bill Clinton did a good job at all. I mean he was offered Osama bin Laden on a silver platter by the Sudanese gov't. and he turned them down. Yeah, great job.

Anyway, Clinton was not really a liberal or dogmatic at all. He's just a narcissistic career politician who always did whatever it took to be popular - not what I want in any president. Unfortunately, Obama is very much a dogmatic socialist and he'll have no problem getting his workers' paradise goals implemented with a Dem House and Senate. Luckily, Obama has zero chance of winning AZ, so we won't see him here.
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Old 09-20-2008, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Out there somewhere...a traveling man.
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I SURE HOPE NOT! ! ! ! !
Aw gee bummer, I thought you'd like to have lunch with Obama and Hildabeast just to yank their chains...
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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I've seen the Hildabeast up close in person once. Not a pretty sight. I don't want to see it again.
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:21 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Except for Pima county, AZ belongs to McCain. Too many older white voters driving around in american cars, sticking to their traditional american values as defined by Republicans. This is a segment that resists change and wants to hang on to the old. That's McCain.

If I were Obama, I would waste little time in AZ. Probably spend more time in states where people are not so rigid and misguided, places where there are a larger share of younger people. This includes CO, NV, and NM.

I don't think Obama will be there before the election.
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:48 PM
 
Location: NW Phoenix
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I don't think Bill Clinton did a good job at all. I mean he was offered Osama bin Laden on a silver platter by the Sudanese gov't. and he turned them down. Yeah, great job.

Anyway, Clinton was not really a liberal or dogmatic at all. He's just a narcissistic career politician who always did whatever it took to be popular - not what I want in any president. Unfortunately, Obama is very much a dogmatic socialist and he'll have no problem getting his workers' paradise goals implemented with a Dem House and Senate. Luckily, Obama has zero chance of winning AZ, so we won't see him here.
Funny.....our economy was doing quite well when Clinton was Pres.(from what I remember)

But, Obama has a really good chance of WINNING so we may see him here alot...in the near future!

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Old 09-20-2008, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Southern Arizona
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Aw gee bummer, I thought you'd like to have lunch with Obama and Hildabeast just to yank their chains...
Hmmmmmmm, nitram . . . never thought of it that way!
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Cave Creek, AZ USA
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Funny.....our economy was doing quite well when Clinton was Pres.(from what I remember)

But, Obama has a really good chance of WINNING so we may see him here alot...in the near future!
I guess you don't recall the recession that was in full swing by the time Bush took office in 2001. Who was president before that? When did you start following the news and politics? Anyway, I've always done better each year than the last and it never had anything to do with whoever the president was. The only difference they ever made was how much I paid in taxes. And Obama wants to raise my taxes to redistribute what I've earned to people who will vote for him. No thanks.
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Old 09-20-2008, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Sunny Phoenix Arizona...wishing for a beach.
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I guess you don't recall the recession that was in full swing by the time Bush took office in 2001. Who was president before that? When did you start following the news and politics? Anyway, I've always done better each year than the last and it never had anything to do with whoever the president was. The only difference they ever made was how much I paid in taxes. And Obama wants to raise my taxes to redistribute what I've earned to people who will vote for him. No thanks.
Rick Lee for President!!
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Old 09-21-2008, 08:19 AM
 
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i belive he will come here soon. to bring change.


we have to much sunshine, he will take it and give it to another state
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:43 AM
 
Location: AZ
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i belive he will come here soon. to bring change.


we have to much sunshine, he will take it and give it to another state
He can take all the sunshine he wants during the summer months. Obama ftw!
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